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Ore is being harvested 50% faster than tears

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Dave Stark
#41 - 2014-05-07 12:17:09 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Both warrant their destruction.


and power to you. just stop pretending it's for some greater good rather than the fact that you find it hilarious and entertaining. :P


Of course it's hilarious and entertaining.

It just so happens that it is for a greater good.


some sleeping pills will help you get to sleep at night, but with the added bonus that you don't need to lie to yourself.
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#42 - 2014-05-07 12:19:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Shalua Rui
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
It just so happens that it is for a greater good.

We'll see about that, when prices shift because recycling isn't as profitable/industry relevant anymore as it used to be...

The greater good my a... Blink

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#43 - 2014-05-07 12:21:58 UTC
Shalua Rui wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
It just so happens that it is for a greater good.

We'll see about that, when prices shift because recycling isn't as profitable/industry relevant anymore as it used to be...

The greater good my a... Blink


What on earth does refining have to do with it?

Killing people is always a good cause, the economy does not function without loss.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Dave Stark
#44 - 2014-05-07 12:24:55 UTC
Shalua Rui wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
It just so happens that it is for a greater good.

We'll see about that, when prices shift because recycling isn't as profitable/industry relevant anymore as it used to be...

The greater good my a... Blink


mineral prices won't shift that much, ccp are dumping more minerals in high end ore in an attempt to make the prospector relevant rather than redundant.
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#45 - 2014-05-07 12:28:53 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
mineral prices won't shift that much, ccp are dumping more minerals in high end ore in an attempt to make the prospector relevant rather than redundant.

I know, what I meant was: Even more minerals will come from mining and even less from PvP/missions.

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#46 - 2014-05-07 12:36:11 UTC
Any major shift in mineral prices will most likely be reflected by the market i.e inflation.

The people who will lose out are the people whose income doesn't scale with inflation i.e ratters and mission runners.

Oh god.
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#47 - 2014-05-07 12:46:29 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Any major shift in mineral prices will most likely be reflected by the market i.e inflation.

The people who will lose out are the people whose income doesn't scale with inflation i.e ratters and mission runners.

Of course, but it'll also mean (suicide) ganking will become an even bigger loose/loose scenario for the economy as a whole... those people already produce nothing, but with exceeding reliance of the market on miners to provide minerals, they could very well become an economic problem.

Hey, it's just as valid an argument then what the NO nuts propagate... Blink

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#48 - 2014-05-07 12:51:05 UTC
I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. Suicide ganking is unaffected by inflation afaik.

Oh god.
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#49 - 2014-05-07 13:04:33 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

Of course. They've gotten the capabilities of the real players repeatedly nerfed over the years.

It's only proof of one thing. Clearly, mining is too easy. I suggest we add loot spew to the asteroids. The added benefit being that you pretty much cannot bot it, and surely miners would never approve of botting, right?


Don't know any miners that bot. Know quite a few miners as well.

PvP tends to happen at the weekend, Friday through Sunday as it's very hard to get good numbers for a CTA otherwise unless there's something really major going down people are willing to bunk off work or school for.
Scarlett LaBlanc
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2014-05-07 13:34:52 UTC
Read all five pages, great entertainment value. Seem that the thread has been off topic since page one though......


Based on the current totals on the challenge page it is clear that miners really Do play (or perhaps just log in and bot, depending on your political outlook) during the week. It was said above that PvP'ers can not be arsed to log in untill the weekend.

It seems to me that the entire "ISK destroyed" category is counting on the CODE folks until Friday. You guys really need to get out there and gank. It's clear the miners are logged in, the entire PvP community is counting on you to carry the ball the next two days!

I won't even get started on the mission runners, they have been totally absent from this conversation.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#51 - 2014-05-07 13:47:26 UTC
Logged in to my (usually) sleepy out of the way system this morning only to see this.


☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#52 - 2014-05-07 13:49:14 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Logged in to my (usually) sleepy out of the way system this morning only to see this.

Ah, don't worry, it'll only get worse... Blink

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2014-05-07 14:11:31 UTC
I usually mine, and yesterday was the most active I've seen the indy corps around me. Everyone seemed pretty jazzed about having a goal to work towards. It was pretty cool.

I think I'll switch to grinding missions, and once the weekend gets here I'll load up as many throw away ships as I can afford with mission loot and go get blown up a lot to help with the destruction total. Shouldn't be hard, I suck at pvp Big smile
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#54 - 2014-05-07 14:20:57 UTC
Director Blackflame wrote:
I am disappointed in you capsuleers...


And this surprises anyone, HOW, exactly ?

OH, sure, they'll tell you "well, we needed the ore anyway with all the indy changes coming up"...

It's sad, y'know.... all this denial.... and all it takes is a few free drones for the hardcore PVP'er to embrace his "inner carebear". P


"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#55 - 2014-05-07 14:22:17 UTC
Shalua Rui wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Logged in to my (usually) sleepy out of the way system this morning only to see this.

Ah, don't worry, it'll only get worse... Blink


It's low sec, so I was understandably surprised.

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
#56 - 2014-05-07 15:18:35 UTC
What I find amusing is it's the "real players" that have turned on the waterworks in this thread over a silly free drone worth what, 40mil isk. This is a game where everyone is space rich. There's no way 40mil isk should even matter. If your a "real" player, and actually that poor ingame, then you need to look at your own productiveness and determine what shortcomings you need to address.

Perhaps it's time to stop going for the ship spinning record, and get out there to play your game no matter what it is you like to do.

Failing that, I will kindly ask the real players to lean over this collection bucket.*



*By the way, being the highly refined player I am, I will ask you to use proper bucket filling technique. Please face down into the bucket in such a manner, that allows your tears fall directly away from your eyes and into the collection receptacle. I prefer purity, and tears rolling down the cheeks may be tainted by Cheetos dust. This is unacceptable.

.

They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake.

**This IS my main so STFU.
Valerianne Anthar
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#57 - 2014-05-07 15:40:26 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
It's "ISK Destroyed" which could mean ammo use by mission runners, items used in manufacturing, losses to CONCORD, PI items being "destroyed" as they're converted into the next tier, etc. If so, then the PVP folks are really, really, really, really, a trivial part of the economy.

edit: Or it could be isk actually destroyed via isk sinks such as market taxes, etc..

Or CCP really needs to be a bit more descriptive about what metrics they're tracking.


Naturally PVP is a smaller part of the economy, predators are always smaller population than their prey. If it were otherwise an ecosystem would not survive.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#58 - 2014-05-07 15:45:03 UTC
There are people willing to fight so every "true PVP rotflstomper" will stay in the station in hope that Jita freighters will become primary target.

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Solecist Project's Alt
Doomheim
#59 - 2014-05-07 16:54:45 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
There are people willing to fight so every "true PVP rotflstomper" will stay in the station in hope that Jita freighters will become primary target.

Freighters are getting ganked on a daily basis.
It's pretty meaningless, but it pushes the bar up a bit.
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#60 - 2014-05-07 17:27:10 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:

There are very few situations in which killing more miners is not an appropriate response.


Usually the 'I just lost my ship to (fill in alliance here) and need mins/a new ship' situation. Fewer miners makes replacing ships more expensive.