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Cloaky Camper Cure?

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Nadezda Morozovovna
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-05-06 23:04:00 UTC
As professional carebear, i dont like cloaky camping at all
And i would, ofc, welcome any thing that would reduce it, like "Press that button once per hour or you will be decloaked yay"

On the other hand, wouldnt be much more simple to just create covops version of cyno jammer and make it uber expensive?


But ye, another thread like this...
There is a lot of topics like this
But this one is yours
Than makes it speshul
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#22 - 2014-05-06 23:12:02 UTC
Cute, the OP is like a really stupid summary of everything cloaking-related on this forum. I'll give you a solid 7/10 on the comedy front.

On the cloaking front, I suggest giving every ship cloaking-ability. Actual cloaks then could give the ship the additional ability to warp cloaked: Protoype cloaks half your warp-speed, improved cloaks only reduce warp-speed by 10%.

Oh and cov-ops cloaks allow your ship to lock and shoot while cloaked, of course. There is no other way. Pirate
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
#23 - 2014-05-06 23:20:05 UTC
Also no (again.)

And put me down for "No" the next six times this topic comes up (should get me to mid-year.)

TIA

KB

Dum Spiro Spero
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2014-05-06 23:21:05 UTC
Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2014-05-06 23:24:35 UTC
The cure to cloaky campers is to not be so utterly controlled by risk aversion that he stops you from doing anything.
Major Lunartik
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2014-05-06 23:34:06 UTC
NO surprise there, cloaky campers not wanting a 'counter measure'.Roll

as you were friends, the rest may continue scratching your heads.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#27 - 2014-05-06 23:34:23 UTC
Another renter added to the AFK Cloak / AFK Noob list.




Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Dominus Tempus
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#28 - 2014-05-06 23:42:03 UTC
So, can you post the killmail?
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#29 - 2014-05-06 23:43:39 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Another renter added to the AFK Cloak / AFK Noob list.





When does that thing hit the end of a float value?
Next week?
Solecist Project's Alt
Doomheim
#30 - 2014-05-06 23:48:56 UTC
NEONOVUS wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Another renter added to the AFK Cloak / AFK Noob list.





When does that thing hit the end of a float value?
Next week?

Float?
qword!
Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
#31 - 2014-05-06 23:57:43 UTC
Whoa! It's this thread topic again. I can't believe its already been a whole day since the last time it was brought up. What?

They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake.

**This IS my main so STFU.
Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
#32 - 2014-05-07 00:00:11 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
* Creates macro to periodically warp between bookmarks after the anticloak patch goes into effect.



This will allow me to be at work and still be trolling you at the same time \0/


*at the same time, also creates contract and hands all his stuff over to belt scout before getting banned for using a macro.

Big smile

They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake.

**This IS my main so STFU.
Alexa Coates
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2014-05-07 00:01:11 UTC
the fix is to shut the **** up and stop crying about a non-existant problem

'ooooh noooo someone is doing nothing in my system'

That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#34 - 2014-05-07 00:05:42 UTC
Major Lunartik wrote:
CCP need to put a timer on cloaky campers, and once timer runs out, some sort of sovereignty device can decloak and even web and scram them so sov renters/owners can pop their unsporting ass.
I thought of this as we have a cloaky in our system, and knowing how CCP pride themselves on how Eve has no real game rules, and 'Hot-droppers' will suffer if any other method was implemented, so a timer on some sort of modual/sov-modual with a set timer of say, 3hrs?, (allows hot-drops, makes it interesting), and after the timer is triggered, the offender cant log off let alone do anything else, so SOV owners/renters can blow up offender and pod for good measure.

Take this a step further and put a modual on gates so once a camper has been 'busted' the gate wont allow them in or at least penalize the known camper by killing the cloaking device!.

Currently there seems to be no cure for the cloaky campers, and pilots go play other games while being camped, CCP this does mean your subscribers may find a different game to enjoy and discontinue with Eveonline.

Ditch the rules, create counter measures.

o7


Make an upfront agreement with your neighbour to use their anoms (be polite don't move a carrier into someone elses system to rat with) when you have a camper and that will either reveal the camper to actually be afk, or let you trap it coming through the gate if its not.

Even if you don't kill it, forcing it to gate, forces it to reveal its hull type.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#35 - 2014-05-07 00:07:58 UTC
Major Lunartik wrote:
NO surprise there, cloaky campers not wanting a 'counter measure'.Roll


Plenty of counter measures... they just require effort... and a bit of imagination. Welcome to EVE. Roll

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )
decaneos
Casalt Corp
CAStabouts
#36 - 2014-05-07 00:15:32 UTC
I have to say i do find that having the ability to stay cloaked indefinitely while you go play on another char just to be annoying is well lame, saying that it is a valid play style if somewhat boring.

To stay in a system in space for however long you want and no one will ever find you seems to me be a problem, you call people nullbears for wanting combat which seems a bit odd, afk cloakys do everything they can to avoid combat, its there job, sit there afk and try to look big and bad.

Should there be a way to stop this, well personally yes i think there should. i had thought of maybe a mod that would ping the area and highlight the spot there in while not actually reviling there exact location, but after a while i realized this wouldn't work as if there are in a deep safe how do you warp to them.

So my thoughts come to this, your probes have a limited life span out side, maybe your cloak should take heat damage over a period of time, make it small so that the heat damage taken by the cloak for say a normal t1 would give it a hour of permanent running. T2 and faction could last longer ofc. so if you afk for to long your cloak will break and you will become visible to scans.

the numbers ofc can all be changed. but i do believe a solution to this craze that's afk cloaking needs to be addressed, sry to all those guys that constantly sit in our systems for hours on end doing nothing but hiding but hey we do want a chance at killing you :)

and no this isn't a alt.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#37 - 2014-05-07 00:17:54 UTC
Felicity Love wrote:
Major Lunartik wrote:
NO surprise there, cloaky campers not wanting a 'counter measure'.Roll


Plenty of counter measures... they just require effort... and a bit of imagination. Welcome to EVE. Roll



Ah.. but therein lies the problem.... ::effort:: .

Imagination isn't the issue.. AFK Camping only works due to overactive imaginations.

Do not try to nerf the camper, that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth: There is no threat ; and you will see that it is not the reds that keep you docked.. but only yourself.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#38 - 2014-05-07 00:19:00 UTC
Decaneos wrote:
I have to say i do find that having the ability to stay cloaked indefinitely while you go play on another char just to be annoying is well lame, saying that it is a valid play style if somewhat boring.



ahhh local is extremely powerful, particularly in null and cloaked campers are a counter to that.
Ahost Gceo
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2014-05-07 00:19:48 UTC
Major Lunartik wrote:
NO surprise there, cloaky campers not wanting a 'counter measure'.Roll

Because what does someone who is cloaked do to you? Nothing. You can go on with your piddly existance as a renter.

Until he decloaks and points you for being complacent of course. But then if you weren't a lazy and vulnerable pilot, you would have a trap set.

Sounds like you just need to bend the way you play the game instead of bending the game to suit you and friggin' deal with it.

CCP ignore me please, I make too much sense.
Luna Prey
Moon-Ninja
#40 - 2014-05-07 00:30:23 UTC
Major Lunartik wrote:
CCP need to put a timer on cloaky campers, and once timer runs out, some sort of sovereignty device can decloak and even web and scram them so sov renters/owners can pop their unsporting ass.
I thought of this as we have a cloaky in our system, and knowing how CCP pride themselves on how Eve has no real game rules, and 'Hot-droppers' will suffer if any other method was implemented, so a timer on some sort of modual/sov-modual with a set timer of say, 3hrs?, (allows hot-drops, makes it interesting), and after the timer is triggered, the offender cant log off let alone do anything else, so SOV owners/renters can blow up offender and pod for good measure.

Take this a step further and put a modual on gates so once a camper has been 'busted' the gate wont allow them in or at least penalize the known camper by killing the cloaking device!.

Currently there seems to be no cure for the cloaky campers, and pilots go play other games while being camped, CCP this does mean your subscribers may find a different game to enjoy and discontinue with Eveonline.

Ditch the rules, create counter measures.

o7


Hi, I'm a website programmer, and owner of the website http://sociopath-community.com. I spend a lot of time working at my computer，and I don't really enjoy the elitist leadership in most corporations. I, instead, choose to spec toward curse and pilgrim, and harass large corporations with my cloaky.

This is the only way I have of getting back at the big corperations and making them suffer. Please dont take it from me!