Player Features and Ideas Discussion

no one is saying to use t2 ammo, just to have better dps with t1 ammo/faction ammo. to give the modules more use since they don't see any right now.

people just use meta lvl 4 until they have skills for t2 guns.

oh yea mister smart, by this way of thinking we should remove all faction and dedspace and officer stuff out of the game!


way to buff? so we will see more care bears in hi sec blow up, to improve you tick in null sec a bit, to have another light advatage over oponets in pvp etc.

it adds content to the game and give other options to play it, making eve bit more complex and make it more fun!!

Some people are.


Why should they? What is the point of training for T2 guns if you get better damage with faction guns? T2 ammo? That's hardly a selling point for many weapons systems as T2 ammo isn't that useful for them. From my experience, most people are using faction ammo with T2 guns because they get the specialisation bonus.


Lower the LP store cost significantly, problem solved.

Thanks. It was me.
My topic was here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4505378 I suggested to use rigs for that purpose, but as Nariya Kentaya says, it may be not rigs. Maybe new gunnery skill? Or implant?

Ahh ok that makes more sense. T2 are specialized (as the ships are) so you have damage and range T2 Ammo. So I will agree that T2 with T2 damage ammo should be pretty much the best since you have to invest time into training for it.

I would counter propose that faction weapons stay as they are with T1 Ammo. However, how about they get an additional bonus (tacking or damage or range, etc) when loaded with faction ammo. Like a CN Lead charges get a damage boost, or CN Anti-Matter gets a range boost when loaded into a CN Railgun. (I hope that makes sense). Oh and if you put Fed Navy ammo in a Cal Navy Gun the gun will treat it like T1 ammo... no bonus.

Well that is my 2c.

p.s. Personally I think they should reduce the amount of gun ammo and level out the bonus/penalties. do we really need 8 different types of crystals? I think they should cut them to 3; Short range-high damage (eg: multi frequency), Med range-med damage (eg: Standard), long range-low damage (eg: radio) and then of course the 2 T2 ammo's.

As an alternative to this how about a synergy bonus for ships modules and munitions from the same faction used together.
Since said faction gear should have a high level of compatibility is should make sense that you get the most out of their gear when you use it with the equipment it was built to work with.
Even a very slight bonus that stacked for every module fitted to a ship of the same faction would add a notable advantage without having to rebalance all related modules.
I would like to see a CNR with CN modules that was competitive with the golem for effective tank and damage output (obviously less raw ehp since no bastion but much more mobile) or a Navy Armageddon with superior tank and damage when fitted with navy hardeners and heat sinks.

That's an interesting idea. Kind of like a matching armor or weapons set in various fantasy games. How much and what kind of bonus were you thinking of exactly?

I dont think it's a good idea, at least that 2 lines.
If you do it this way, what will change? What is the reason for the use of factional weapons? They will still remain useless. All will continue to use tech2.