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Ice Mining Crystals

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Lothros Andastar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-05-06 09:11:58 UTC
T2 Strips use crystals to improve yield, so why not have crystals to improve cycle time on T2 Ice Harvesters? Twisted
Anita Too
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2014-05-06 09:21:36 UTC
Great idea! Let's nerf all ice mining lazers' cycle times and make mining crystals a requirement to get back the same cycle times. This will definitely be in line with the recent industrial buff (and rejoice whoever that builds ice mining crystals).
Arean Proktor
Chilli Joe
#3 - 2014-05-06 09:30:52 UTC
Anita Too wrote:
Great idea! Let's nerf all ice mining lazers' cycle times and make mining crystals a requirement to get back the same cycle times. This will definitely be in line with the recent industrial buff (and rejoice whoever that builds ice mining crystals).



Yey somebody wrote an Idea... lets flame him to the ground and not add anything with any sense at all \o/

Easy to mock about other People isn´t?

I like the Idea +1 from me
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#4 - 2014-05-06 09:42:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade
She added a very valid point to the discussion, one that is more likely than not to happen if Fozzie ever got his hands on that stuff. Whoever denies that has already forgotten the Navy BC, as an example of the past.

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My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.

Adunh Slavy
#5 - 2014-05-06 09:53:47 UTC
Dunno if I agree with the idea or not. Going to throw out a variation on the idea.

What if you could fit a crystal that essentially refined as it mined, and gave a slightly greater yield to whatever it was that crystal was good for.

For example the "Heavy Water Crystal": When used, it only collects heavy water. Instead of a chunk of ice, 25% more heavy water, than would have been refined from that block, is placed in the cargo hold. The rest of the ice block is discarded to the void.

Could do the same for isotopes, ozone and stront.

These crystals would probably see more use in null and low sec, where the ice types can be a bit more specialized, than in high sec where ice is relatively mundane.

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Anita Too
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2014-05-06 10:11:15 UTC
Arean Proktor wrote:
Anita Too wrote:
Great idea! Let's nerf all ice mining lazers' cycle times and make mining crystals a requirement to get back the same cycle times. This will definitely be in line with the recent industrial buff (and rejoice whoever that builds ice mining crystals).



Yey somebody wrote an Idea... lets flame him to the ground and not add anything with any sense at all \o/

Easy to mock about other People isn´t?

I like the Idea +1 from me


Wasn't a bad idea, the suggestion is to "modify" the ice mining lasers and make it a requirement to install crystals to get back its cycle time, thus would minimally affect the balance of economy. As it is, ice belts got mined out too fast for some of us and making it to be mined out even faster would just be imba.

What's wrong with my suggestion? Easy to flame others isn't it?
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#7 - 2014-05-06 10:37:41 UTC
So, in order to have the same cycle time as before, we then use crystals. We make something worse and offer the remedy to get back to the old state... Does this only sound daft to me? Roll

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My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.

Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
#8 - 2014-05-06 11:20:13 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
So, in order to have the same cycle time as before, we then use crystals. We make something worse and offer the remedy to get back to the old state... Does this only sound daft to me? Roll


No, it does not sound daft just to you.

Preferably, if crystals were added, you would end up with specialization that further reduces cycle time for the the particular ice: Blue Ice, White Glaze, Dark Glitter, etc...

Still, to have another set of crystals to manage would be annoying.... which means it most likely will be implemented. Roll

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Tar'z
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-05-06 16:39:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Tar'z
Anita Too wrote:
Arean Proktor wrote:
Anita Too wrote:
Great idea! Let's nerf all ice mining lazers' cycle times and make mining crystals a requirement to get back the same cycle times. This will definitely be in line with the recent industrial buff (and rejoice whoever that builds ice mining crystals).



Yey somebody wrote an Idea... lets flame him to the ground and not add anything with any sense at all \o/

Easy to mock about other People isn´t?

I like the Idea +1 from me


Wasn't a bad idea, the suggestion is to "modify" the ice mining lasers and make it a requirement to install crystals to get back its cycle time, thus would minimally affect the balance of economy. As it is, ice belts got mined out too fast for some of us and making it to be mined out even faster would just be imba.

What's wrong with my suggestion? Easy to flame others isn't it?

He thought you were trolling, lmao.


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So, in order to have the same cycle time as before, we then use crystals. We make something worse and offer the remedy to get back to the old state... Does this only sound daft to me?

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No, it does not sound daft just to you.

Preferably, if crystals were added, you would end up with specialization that further reduces cycle time for the the particular ice: Blue Ice, White Glaze, Dark Glitter, etc...

Still, to have another set of crystals to manage would be annoying.... which means it most likely will be implemented.

Ice mining needs a nerf, so this idea is sound and appropriate. If you don't think ice mining needs a nerf, warp into your local ice belt and count the number of barges.