EVE General Discussion

no you can't.

This, a million times.

Imagine the forum rage from Dinsdale & co. when missions are no longer predictable and easy to blitz. It will be glorious

People want mission running to be about shooting triggers, ignoring everything else and collecting a reward as quickly as possible because isk/hr

Anything that requires them to be "engaged" and "playing the game" is antithetical to the goal of increasing their cashouts

Please don't confuse mission farmers who are a tiny minority with casual players, most of whom also like the idea of low & null but do not have the time to invest that most null corps & alliances demand of their player base, so play in high sec.

Funny how people equate laughing at a person as hating them.

Raises the new question of ...How do comedians deal with all the hatred they receive from an audience each performance? I feel for them

Funnily enough I joined this game because of the potential to be anything I wanted to be in this game. It is one of the few games where I am not hornshoed into being just a PVP orientated player. I also joined knowing that with such freedom available to me, it was available to others to pursue their own agendas as well.

It takes all types to make this game.

Any way that can be used to introduce people to this game that we love to hate or hate to love, should be encouraged. Yes BR-5 was a great way to make people aware of the game, but it would be interesting to see the headlines of those articles outside of gaming reported more about the "Real Life" value rather than because of the people involved. As well, how many of those new subs have stayed in the game?

To the anti hi-sec folk.

Players do not have to play in hi-sec, yet they choose of their own free will to do so. In fact the majority of players choose to play in hi-sec.

Anti hi-sec folk may argue that this is because hi-sec is safer and easier to earn isk in than null-sec. I agree with them, (for the most part) the problem the anti hi-sec folk have is that the majority of players seem to like this arrangement.

Some of the null-sec folk appear to seriously believe that if CCP did away with hi-sec entirely that subs to the game would increase would increase, what evidence they have for this eludes me completely.

I am of the opinion that we all play Eve Online and that where we choose to do so is immaterial. Each to their own and all that.

Anti hi-sec folk are just going to have to come to terms with the fact that CCP has no intentions of doing away with hi-sec, not today, not tomorrow, not ever.

You have no proof of any of what you said also the game literally forces people to start in highsec. People are being forced into highsec. I know our newbees would be much better off if they could spawn and do their little tutorial in VFK.

I can absolutely assure you if people thought they could find the maze and do the maze in the same way that they can find a mission and do the mission in highsec, I'd be completely out of the x-type sales business due to everybody farming their own and not buying mine.

The game has some progression holes, the most notable of which is that the leap between highsec mission runner and mission or anomoly farmer elsewhere is just unclear. At least ded 4 farmers can see clear reasons for seeking ded 5s and ded 6s particularly (and seeking ded 6s is why I am where I am now).



Your whole idea that true anti highsec people exist is pretty much wrong. There is skill in evasion, there is skill in keeping my ships, I earn isk on the back of demonstrating that skill amongst people that would like to kill my ships. I also kill peoples ships who fail to demonstrate that in front of me, if it so happens that I planned sufficiently to have the PVP ship available to switch to ( hint number 1, this is a planning and logistics procedure that I happen to perform, which is why I get kills occasionally).

What we do not want, is for absurd game changes that prevent me from needing evasion skills as a PVE player, prevent there being any differentation in results based on skill or planning, and prevent people from being able to legitimately hunt players, which is also a skill.

Hint number 2, hunting other players is fun, and it is objectively more fun than PVE, and I say that as one of the most dedicated PVE players in the game, who has spent 99% + numerous digits of precision of my game time PVEing, and expect to do likewise in the future.

I would be entirely happy if CCP dedicated most of its resources to improving PVE, just so long as clarity around the need to contextualize properly with risk remains, and that highsec fits into a base for preparing to seek reward, instead of being the damn reward in itself.

I put up with the stratios being a highsec derived object, simply because its plainly designed to be a reward seeking object outside of highsec use, but its a long and painful process waiting out its economic distortions.

After all, visions of doom require the smoking of some seriously heavy stuff, and I have absolutely NO urge to share a bag with the goons.