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Scamming reaches a new low.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#121 - 2011-12-02 19:45:07 UTC
Rabid cat wrote:
But guys! This is just like a typical scam letter! I have seen many circulating sob stories like this on the internet! The only thing is that the part where the victim's wife is asking for money is missing.

PS. You can live completely normal life even if you are addicted to pain meds if you can keep taking only what you need (and if the meds really help). Maybe cannabis would have been better pain medication for the victim.



I'd flame you but I have to go help this guy in Nigeria who just emailed me.



Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Martyr Theos
The NecroMonger Faith
#122 - 2011-12-02 19:46:11 UTC
What this tells me is that it was way past time for this person to quit playing games and clean up his act.
Shocked
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#123 - 2011-12-02 19:52:10 UTC
Personally I have found that keeping real life and EVE separate is a good idea. If something **** happens in game I don't let it affect my real life and vice versa.

Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together -  Fleet-Up.com
Vyl Vit
#124 - 2011-12-02 20:06:51 UTC
AkJon Ferguson wrote:
And btw, the wife did the guy a disservice by deliberately ignoring his wishes and giving these griefing sociopaths all of these priceless tears.

Also she's mad at the wrong person. She should be mad at her husband for valuing a few space pixels more than his wife and new baby.

I hope she at least has the good sense not to breed with this guy again.

Btw, abusing an addictive prescription medication (I'm sure he was warned not to take it more often than prescribed) is no different than abusing any other substance. That stuff ain't candy.

Poor kid.

Ooooh, you'd go over big in Orwellianland. What's amusing about your response is, what goes around comes around. I'd be ready to duck any minute if I were you...fortunately, I'm not. You really should get that sociopathy looked at. It's worse than having a wart on the end of your nose. Really.

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
#125 - 2011-12-02 20:32:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Mortis vonShadow
This isn't Mortis vonShadow posting, this is his wifes third cousins sister's friend.

After posting on this forum, something really bad happened to him. You see, he's been playing EVE for about 4yrs now and he went off to do something in real life, when real life caught up with him. (He had to go take a shower and a get some sleep as he has a sleeping disorder).

While he was away, some "friends" of his that he says he was close with in this game (cause he doesn't have any friends in real life), came into the area he calls home, and they mined some of the asteroids that he calls his own.

I don't know where people in this game get off, but, when someone has a sleeping disorder and they go get some sleep (finally!), that others think that its okay to come in and just make money off of his stuff.

When he awoke from his slumber, he seemed okay, refreshed even. He came and sat back at his computer, but only after saying hi to his wife and two kids, he went and got in his mining ship, went to mine, and all the rocks were gone from his spot that he says he cultivated for a few years.

Well, now he's back in bed sleeping again! And we're all worried sick that he may actually wake up this time and actually participate with his family. His wife says she can't have that.

So, if you guys could see to it that yous send him whatever it takes to get his wife some freedom, and Mortis back into mining that would be spectacular.

P

Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen.                   And some days, you're just a man with a gun.
Ai Shun
#126 - 2011-12-02 21:31:27 UTC
I've been contemplating this thread overnight. If this is a scam or not, I don't know. So whether that guy is in rehab or if he is sitting in mom's basement cackling with glee at the responses - it does not matter to me. Because at the end of the day, there is an old saying that my elders tried to teach me many, many years ago.

If you don't have anything nice to say, better to say nothing at all.

I wonder why so many people posting here have lost that basic courtesy. And, by making this post, I have broken that rule as well.
Juju x
Left Hand Black
#127 - 2011-12-02 21:58:22 UTC
This isn't a scam. Scamming is preying on the stupidity of others for profit.

Having sympathy for those with weak minds makes you weak as well.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#128 - 2011-12-02 22:33:17 UTC
ESRB Notice:

ONLINE INTERACTION NOT RATED BY THE ESRB

Also, jumping in front of moving freight trains will probably kill you. Now you all better STFU before I accuse you all of cyber-bullying.
Sara XIII
The Carnifex Corp
#129 - 2011-12-02 22:54:09 UTC
He should try to gain a little perspective.

He's kept his family and lost nothing of real value throughout this bad situation.

If any of this is true.......

Between Ignorance and Wisdom
Otto Weston
Pod Goo Extraction Agency
#130 - 2011-12-02 22:56:51 UTC
1-Up Mushroom wrote:
Baden Luskan wrote:
Reading stuff like this baffles me. The internet truely shows the dark side of a human being when there is no true accountability for their actions. This is also evident in some of the posts that follow. Taking the OP at face value (I see no reason why they would make this up), this person had in-real-life problems. EVERYONE in this game has had problems at some time or another in thier lives, just most of us not of this magnitude.

What is sickening is the prevailing attitude of "point and laugh" in this game. Its like watching the social behaviors of high school teenagers, but on a world level. So little empathy is displayed here, its quite disheartening. If this stranger was your friend or a loved one, I am sure you would not exibit this kind of behavior, and would be disgusted if someone else did. That being said, have some respect for others. This is a game, but just like any other arena of competition, there is a level of respect everyone that steps into it deserves.

To the OP: I am sorry your friend has had to endure this treatment. Its never easy to deal with the realization that someone you have trusted has betrayed you. Hopefully your friend can get himself collected emotionally and place things in the proper perspective so to allow him to come back to Eve and find a place where he can enjoy his free time. Hopefully karma will come back to bite those that wronged this individual like it often does in real life.


I feel completely the same way, it just amazes me to see how cold and harsh people are in this game, just because people want to seem tough or since they don't have an accountability as you said they think they can be complete cold and heartless idiots. You pretty much covered the way I feel but come on guys, even if you have zero sympathy for this guy at least be respectful and don't post anything at all.


This^ And **** every bastard who's pointing and laughing. Re:the OP.. you get him back in there, or you could set up your own spy alt.. get into their corp/ alliance and **** em all up from the inside. That, or pay RL money to buy plexes to hire people to **** em over. TNT use only Alpha fleets and are nublets. 
Everything's Air Droppable at least once.
Alaric Faelen
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#131 - 2011-12-02 23:48:51 UTC
From a cold, hard logical POV

Theft or betrayal in Eve is not only part of the game, but specifically a point many players like- whether they ever steal or are stolen from. This is Eve. Anyone playing for that long would have known this and may have taken part in something similar at some point.

The entire backstory is irrelevant. While personally tragic, it carries no weight in the context of theft in a game world. This is known as an Argument from Emotion, and is a logical fallacy. The theft of the game items stands alone, and the player's personal life is meaningless. His game loss is no worse than anyone else's, and more importantly-- IT'S A VIDEO GAME!!! He lost nothing real other than time playing he should have been enjoying.

This is the same QQing as always, but now with the emotional backstory. This post is just lashing out, finger pointing rather than analyzing the actual issues- which require professional help, not just ranting on game forums or substituting one drug for a digital one. Get help, real help. You won't find that on a game forum.

Cold? Yeah. We all have sob stories....I play Eve so much because I was injured while in the Army, and it's not by my choice that I am better at walking in a space station than in real life. I had a career, knees that worked- oh boo hoo. Now I play Eve....and yet somehow I haven't lost sight of the fact that it's what??? Say it with me.......a game.

Save the tear jerkers, it's childish.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#132 - 2011-12-02 23:59:48 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
In RL though, where there is consequence, there is civility. If someone wants to call me names on the internet, I don't care. They can even exercise their First Amendment to my face for all I care. But touch me and I will empty a magazine into them and any friends who are pointing and laughing.
And you say the ones playing the game have issues.
How's that morale high ground looking now? Roll

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Rellik B00n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#133 - 2011-12-03 00:16:33 UTC
my dong has reached a new low

har har.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#134 - 2011-12-03 00:21:42 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
In RL though, where there is consequence, there is civility. If someone wants to call me names on the internet, I don't care. They can even exercise their First Amendment to my face for all I care. But touch me and I will empty a magazine into them and any friends who are pointing and laughing.
And you say the ones playing the game have issues.
How's that morale high ground looking now? Roll



Live on your knees much?

Nobody has a right to hurt anybody against their will, for any reason, period.

My moral high ground is pretty dry, thank you.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
MeestaPenni
Mercantile and Stuff
#135 - 2011-12-03 00:59:21 UTC  |  Edited by: MeestaPenni
Destiny Corrupted wrote:

Oh, I see. You're one of those internet tough guys.


It's kind of a funny reddit meme, the "look out, we got us a badass here"....but the reality is, there are some badasses here and there. And the "shoot you in the face" thing is cute and all...but when you're shot in the face, not so much.

I am not Prencleeve Grothsmore.
Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
#136 - 2011-12-03 01:14:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Xpaulusx
Hopefully if this incident is true, somebody won't introduced legislation over this ShockedRollUghLol.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#137 - 2011-12-03 01:22:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Hmmm....

Assuming this is true, we all know he shouldn't have been stressed to the point of falling off the wagon by what others do in a game. He knows it (he didn't want to point fingers except at himself), his wife is upset but struggling to understand it (she respected his wishes and didn't name names), his friend got too emotionally involved and started this thread.

I can understand that, even though I disapprove and would not have created a thread like this myself.

I wouldn't presume to personally cast judgement on any of the participants in this unfortunate situation, but I will say this in reference to his former corp mates even while acknowledging their complete right to act as they did.

No class gentlemen, no class at all.

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Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
#138 - 2011-12-03 01:31:17 UTC
Reminds me back in the day when somebodie's mother tried to sue Ozzy Osbourne because her son killed himself after listening to his music.

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Fionaa
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#139 - 2011-12-03 01:42:21 UTC
How much plexes/dollars did this guy invest in this game?!
Thora Tau'ri
Full Steam Space Machine
#140 - 2011-12-03 02:04:12 UTC
Yeah, sounds like a guy that invested real money into plex/ISK.

I've lost 2 faction/deadspace fitted Tengus within a week, and this was at a point when I could just fly and and was super new.

My response was "welp, time to get a new one" Which tapped out my wallet completely.

Losing ISK or assets in game should be like losing match of Battlefield. You can be pissed that you lost, but at the end of the day, it's just a game.