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Remotely changing sell orders

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Mass Doe
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-05-05 15:21:17 UTC
Im stuck in a hotel in Portland for 3 days watching 10's of millions in sell orders get undercut by .02 isk. I do not think there is a way to adjust these from my Ipad but is there a way from a hotel pc through my account? Or any other way? Obviously im not going to install the game on the hotel pc. How funny would that be.

I could always buy a dedicated laptop for market trannies. I could not see doing anything else except maybe pi on a laptop with eve. Probably could be a fairly cheap one as well.
Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
#2 - 2014-05-05 15:32:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Dirk Magnum
The only way to change orders in-game is through the client.

I do all my playing on a laptop and it works okay. You just can't use the weaksauce graphics card typically integrated to a store-bought machine.

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Jur Tissant
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-05-05 15:33:24 UTC
You must log into the game itself to adjust market orders. A very roundabout way of doing this with an iPad would be to install a remote desktop service and run the game on your home computer using your iPad.
Mass Doe
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-05-05 16:00:11 UTC
I thought about the remote DT. Then i would have to have the computer on for days at a time. Oh well. Maybe a laptop is in order.
Douglas Nolm
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-05-05 16:00:31 UTC
Jur Tissant wrote:
You must log into the game itself to adjust market orders. A very roundabout way of doing this with an iPad would be to install a remote desktop service and run the game on your home computer using your iPad.


I was looking at doing this from my phone while I'm away at work. I only need access to do skill queue maintenance but I wasn't sure it would work. Might have to look at the idea again.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-05-05 17:08:51 UTC
Cheap laptop is fine for market orders.

Mid-high price laptop is fine for anything - that's what I use, no issues at all including fleet pvp.

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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#7 - 2014-05-05 17:09:14 UTC
It is a conscious choice by CCP to not (yet) allow effecting any change in the Eve universe unless you are logged in. All 3rd party API functions are read-only. So, yes, you will need a laptop or remote desktop solution.

Mass Doe wrote:
trannies

That word probably doesn't mean what you think it does. Careful with those abbreviations. Blink

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#8 - 2014-05-05 23:13:08 UTC
I usually play with settings in minimum, i.e. everything set to "Low" or "Disabled" (don't forget the textures one too) and with "HDR" un-checked. I also don't use the Captain's Quarters.

I have no problem running 4 clients with 2-3 minimized, on my laptop which isn't a gaming laptop.

Beware that non-gaming laptops have a common failure source: heat. Typical failures I've experienced are: cooking the GPU or video memory (very common, can even melt the solder-balls), or cooking the power supply (less common, capacitors often rupture, or the switching rectifiers fail). It is very hard to cook a CPU, as they tend to throttle themselves, or blue-screen shutdown.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#9 - 2014-05-05 23:34:48 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
I usually play with settings in minimum, i.e. everything set to "Low" or "Disabled" (don't forget the textures one too) and with "HDR" un-checked. I also don't use the Captain's Quarters.

I have no problem running 4 clients with 2-3 minimized, on my laptop which isn't a gaming laptop.



This, I can run one client on pretty high settings with reasonable performance, or two clients on the bare minimum with excellent performance, on a low-ish specced desktop.

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Raiz Nhell
PeregrineXII
#10 - 2014-05-06 01:52:21 UTC
Laptop is the easiest solution...

I installed it on my MacBook Air, runs OK, with the added bonus of heating the room.

My girlfriend installed it onto her Toshiba tablet/PC thingie... runs a bit special if you undock, but you can use the touchscreen which is very cool until it gets frustrating as hell :)

And make sure its plugged in, your battery will not enjoy the experience.

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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#11 - 2014-05-06 02:48:11 UTC
I don't sweat the .01 isk wars. Part of this is because more of my time is spent away from the game than in it, but also because I don't play the market with any kind of urgency. The truth is, someone undercutting you by .01 isk isn't the difference between sellinng and not selling usually, it is the difference between selling soon or later.

Truth is, usually I examine the history and figure out what profit margin I want, and place my orders well above the .01 isk war buffer. I.e., if I see that the average historical price for a module is about 720m and there is a .01 isk war happening about 680m, I'll happily place my order at 720m, although if someone has much more product than actively trades at the 720m mark, I might undercut THAT order by .01 isk, say 719,999,999.99 Maybe I have only one or 100 modules and this guy has 20000.

Check out Eve Mentat if you are into trading. It has a lot of handy features for traders.

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Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-05-06 20:54:43 UTC
There's also the option of leaving your PC running and using a remote desktop solution to access it from your phone / tablet.
Mass Doe
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-05-06 21:51:13 UTC
Iria Ahrens wrote:
I don't sweat the .01 isk wars. Part of this is because more of my time is spent away from the game than in it, but also because I don't play the market with any kind of urgency. The truth is, someone undercutting you by .01 isk isn't the difference between sellinng and not selling usually, it is the difference between selling soon or later.

Truth is, usually I examine the history and figure out what profit margin I want, and place my orders well above the .01 isk war buffer. I.e., if I see that the average historical price for a module is about 720m and there is a .01 isk war happening about 680m, I'll happily place my order at 720m, although if someone has much more product than actively trades at the 720m mark, I might undercut THAT order by .01 isk, say 719,999,999.99 Maybe I have only one or 100 modules and this guy has 20000.

Check out Eve Mentat if you are into trading. It has a lot of handy features for traders.


Hey yea, the end in manufacturing is turning into an isk war for me at Dodixie. Rigs volume is kind of high and am using buy orders for the salvage, also a .1 war. I guess i should just let it ride and let them take longer. Patience magi san. Its kind of fun though untill you start to feel like a station whore. Good to get outside even if its in space. Lol. Once my capital gets sufficiently high i wont be in such a hurry to move product.
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#14 - 2014-05-07 01:44:37 UTC
If you stick to the basic rule of fun first you will go far. Obsessing over the opportunity cost is only worth it if you consider it fun. If fighting .01 isk wars is fun, then by all means do it. If you find them aggravating, then finding a different product to sell, or patience might be best. But .01 isk wars do sell faster, so the opportunity cost is much better.

Basically, the more isk you have in reserve the more patient you can be. But if you are still accumulating your seed money, then it pays to be more attentive. Either way, Daytrading is a great skill because you can fly missions or whatever across the region and still tend your orders.

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