Player Features and Ideas Discussion

boost faction Turrets and Lunchers to be sligthly better than T2, maybe apply spec skill bonus to them.

they seem usles to players with skills for t2 wepons, and poeple that don't have them can afford faction ones

I don't think faction guns need a buff, they're already the low sp, low fitting alternative to T2, I don't think they need to be buffed to compete with T2.

he is on to something! great idea!

too OP, just let them have bit more dps over t2 and it's cool.

i don't think they should use t2 ammo bacause you will take t2 wepons perk from the.

now t2 wepons have more dps but use more PG/CPU and can use t2 ammo
Factions modules use less PG/CPU and do less dmg, and i think they should do a bit more because they are rare and cost mych more than t2

well at least 5%-10%

20% is bit too much

(cough) … Deadspace weapons … (cough)

Well, whenever i try something out with weapons, it seems that the T2 weapon does more damage, even before T2 ammo, in this sense that module tiercide slide about -------------> power that was shown with the current state of weapon modules was a bit odd, showing faction weapons as more powerful than T2.

The devs seems to have a different concepr of "power", so even after tiercide for modules, i dont think much will really change (except of custom faction modules with beefed up secondary stats).

"If you make faction better than T2... what would be the point of training T2?"

You mean like most other modules currently work? Gank resistance? :)

Just let faction weapons use T2 ammo, and then put the T2 gun skill requirements on the T2 ammo as well. So if you can't use T2 guns, then you can still use the faction guns, but you can't put T2 ammo into them. If you can use the T2 guns, then you can now use T2 ammo in your faction guns. problem solved!

No, we are talking about maxed skills, there is no way you will have more dps with faction wepons with lvl 4 skill right?

If you would like more dps you need to train it lvl 5 any way.



And also T2 wepons can use T2 ammo!! and faction guns can't.

So if you fit fation gun with faction ammo it will have a bit more dps would be cool, but if you fit Void ammo to t2 blaster you have have more dps ofc.


So you be cool to boost faction wepons to have bit more dps with t1 ammo, so they need better stats because t2 wepons with t2 ammo witll have more dps any way right?

Factions wepons will be valid and better for ratting and better for tight fits on PvP

It seems CN launchers already do more DPS than T2 launchers with T1 ammo. I think the only changes that need to be made to faction weapons is to reduce their cost in the LP store so that they can become viable for PvP (probably something along the lines of 1000 LP + 1 million ISK for a small gun).

If they have their DPS buffed, it should be buffed to match T2 guns using T1 ammo. They shouldn't be allowed to use T2 ammo and they should have their fitting requirements nerfed to match T2 guns if they receive this buff. This is a bad idea though, because it basically only makes them useful to low SP players with ISK, which is basically the same as it is now.

Edit: Actually, on second thoughts, the second idea isn't such a bad idea. If the faction guns, with T1 ammo, do the same DPS as T2 guns with T2 ammo + spec V, that basically gives the Faction guns a 2% DPS increase over T2 as most people only train a spec to IV. People who take the time to train it to V will be able to match faction DPS with T1 ammo still.

I think that would be a pretty decent place for them.