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Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#201 - 2014-05-05 17:40:06 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
King Fu Hostile wrote:
Dinsdale Piranha wrote:
More like the removal of all loot from missions, and the buffing of the Incursion rats, making the sites take longer to finish.


these are pretty good suggestions mate



It is not like I am giving the CSM ideas. These directives, and more, have already delivered to the CCP dev's.
Like I have said before, every pilot generating PvE income in high sec is someone not paying a tithe to the cartel leaders, and they can't have that.

Just wait until Level 4 missions get removed from high sec. The crying will be...breathtaking.

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Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#202 - 2014-05-05 17:40:34 UTC
baltec1 wrote:

We care about this game to shoot down all of the terrible ideas some people have.


Even if it means showing up at thier house and beating them with a ball bat. j/k


However, it's the ideas that are only terrible to some play styles and good for others that are the subject of concern. Even the gradual approach to doing away with highsec is a net loss for CCP, but many goons seem to support it anyway.
Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#203 - 2014-05-05 17:42:57 UTC
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Even the gradual approach to doing away with highsec is a net loss for CCP

This is inaccurate.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#204 - 2014-05-05 17:46:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Rhes wrote:
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Even the gradual approach to doing away with highsec is a net loss for CCP

This is inaccurate.

We can't let the truth get in the way of a Goons (Grr™) are CCP conspiracy

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#205 - 2014-05-05 17:53:45 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
4. And then, the next body blow to high sec, Incursion and mission income hammered in some way. I always believed it would just be some across the board nerf to bounties, but I see now that it will be more insidious. More like the removal of all loot from missions, and the buffing of the Incursion rats, making the sites take longer to finish.


so the nullsec ~cartels~ are asking that PvE is made more challenging

how cruel

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Josef Djugashvilis
#206 - 2014-05-05 18:05:17 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Jaxon Grylls wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
We talk to people the same way they talk to us.

Then claim the moral high ground and refuse to indulge in such activities.

Or could it be that you really enjoy all the angst and dislike?

Just like Millwall football club supporters.

They have a chant "Everybody hates us, we don't care."

I suspect that deep down they do care. Same with you.


We care about this game to shoot down all of the terrible ideas some people have.


Does your foot hurt?

Sorry, could not resist the obvious rejoinder Smile

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Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#207 - 2014-05-05 18:07:52 UTC
When did this degenerate into another Grr Gons thread?

and why?

You have a council, find the man or woman who will represent you the best. Contact them ask them questions. How they reply, how they listen . . . THAT is what is important.

Not what a select few of trolls in this thread are doing.

Might as well say I am 'fighting for the removal of complexes and escalations from null and wormhole space'* as they are only to be PvP. All PvE activities must be in highsec, right? right? Low only kind of counts so I guess they can have some things.

No

Wild death of any section of space is not what the council is for. Sorry, I wish I could make you all tinfoil hats so you could protect yourselves.

Back to the council composition.

What part of space do you think is missed in representation? Or did we finally manage to get diversity?

m

* - I am not fighting to make massive changes to remove parts of the game

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Josef Djugashvilis
#208 - 2014-05-05 18:11:34 UTC
Rhes wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
King Fu Hostile wrote:
Dinsdale Piranha wrote:
More like the removal of all loot from missions, and the buffing of the Incursion rats, making the sites take longer to finish.


these are pretty good suggestions mate



It is not like I am giving the CSM ideas. These directives, and more, have already delivered to the CCP dev's.
Like I have said before, every pilot generating PvE income in high sec is someone not paying a tithe to the cartel leaders, and they can't have that.

Just wait until Level 4 missions get removed from high sec. The crying will be...breathtaking.


Whatever will the null-sec alts do if it should happen?

Look chaps, no matter how often you spam the forums with ideas you want CCP to implement to create your version of Eve Online, you know that CCP ignore your rants against hi-sec as much as we find them amusing.

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Josef Djugashvilis
#209 - 2014-05-05 18:12:58 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
When did this degenerate into another Grr Gons thread?

and why?

You have a council, find the man or woman who will represent you the best. Contact them ask them questions. How they reply, how they listen . . . THAT is what is important.

Not what a select few of trolls in this thread are doing.

Might as well say I am 'fighting for the removal of complexes and escalations from null and wormhole space'* as they are only to be PvP. All PvE activities must be in highsec, right? right? Low only kind of counts so I guess they can have some things.

No

Wild death of any section of space is not what the council is for. Sorry, I wish I could make you all tinfoil hats so you could protect yourselves.

Back to the council composition.

What part of space do you think is missed in representation? Or did we finally manage to get diversity?

m

* - I am not fighting to make massive changes to remove parts of the game


If the goons stop spamming the forums, I for one, promise to stop making fun of them.

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FEARNAUGHT O'BREQ
Open University of Celestial Hardship
Art of War Alliance
#210 - 2014-05-05 18:23:49 UTC
Congratulations to all those that made it onto the CSM9.
Hope you have a good & productive year.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#211 - 2014-05-05 18:39:24 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Andski wrote:
Dalloway Jones wrote:
So the people who claim that high sec should be wiped out are the same people who come to the forums and cry when a cloaked ship is sitting in a system all day, right?


hiseccers just come to the forums and cry because the possibility exists that they might someday lose a ship


Andski, even by your admittedly low standards of forum posting, this is nonsense, even more so because you know it is nonsense.


If we don't communicate down on your level you won't understand what we're saying.


Dear La Nariz...your response says more about you than I would wish to say whilst staying within the forum rules really...

On the bright side, it is great that really young folk like you play Eve, it helps to ensure the game has a future if you stick with it.

Take care.


Another example of terrible highsec people "what you do in this video game means you're a bad person in real life." For every one of those I've received I receive at least three death threats over my antics.

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Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#212 - 2014-05-05 18:40:44 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
I Have 18Accounts wrote:

This battle in your minds where all us "pubbies" gather around plotting for your destruction is just that; a battle in your minds.



Except for:

Insurance nerfs.

Concord buffs.

Barge buffs.

Both Crimewatch.

MTU "bug" fix.

And that's just in the last couple of years. Writing's on the wall, dude.


All of these changes make perfect sense.

For example when a terrorist organization decides to take assassinate miners wouldn't it make sense for the corporations that build mining barges to start making safer options, for insurance companies to realize they are losing money on suicide ganks and stop making payouts, for Concord to offer better protection?

It is just the NPC's reacting to the sandbox and is pretty legitimate.

The people who whine about these changes are just as bad as the people who whine about suicide gankers in general or the grrrgoons folks.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#213 - 2014-05-05 18:50:28 UTC  |  Edited by: La Nariz
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

We care about this game to shoot down all of the terrible ideas some people have.


Even if it means showing up at thier house and beating them with a ball bat. j/k


However, it's the ideas that are only terrible to some play styles and good for others that are the subject of concern. Even the gradual approach to doing away with highsec is a net loss for CCP, but many goons seem to support it anyway.


Yep I've had that threat tossed at me over an awox before. You highsec pubbies need to keep the rage and anger focused in-game.

E: Also the grand highsec pubbie rapture you all like to threaten us with will never happen.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#214 - 2014-05-05 18:57:48 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

We care about this game to shoot down all of the terrible ideas some people have.


Even if it means showing up at thier house and beating them with a ball bat. j/k


However, it's the ideas that are only terrible to some play styles and good for others that are the subject of concern. Even the gradual approach to doing away with highsec is a net loss for CCP, but many goons seem to support it anyway.


Yep I've had that threat tossed at me over an awox before. You highsec pubbies need to keep the rage and anger focused in-game.

E: Also the grand highsec pubbie rapture you all like to threaten us with will never happen.

Strange how it's the so called peaceful players who issue all the threats of violence and retribution outside of the game isn't it?

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Marsha Mallow
#215 - 2014-05-05 19:01:22 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
If the goons stop spamming the forums, I for one, promise to stop making fun of them.

They're not actually derailing, some of them are making very valid points. A few of us are making fun of everybody (and ourselves).

There should be a way to entirely block corp/alliance from view on the forums so people - who are clearly incapable of doing so at the moment - can respond to the content of posts rather than crying about the loyalties of the poster.

I suppose that would take a lot of the fun out of the name calling though.

Mike Azariah wrote:
When did this degenerate into another Grr Gons thread?

and why?

We're working on a "how fast can we Grr" policy, it's like a forum minigame. Or how fast someone can insert the phrase "pubbie rapture" / "nullsec cartel propagandists". Extra points are awarded if IB4Dinsdale.

Mike Azariah wrote:
What part of space do you think is missed in representation? Or did we finally manage to get diversity?

Space looks well covered, but there might be some playstyles missing. Are there any Codies on there yet? Scammers might be under-represented. And WiS fans. Role-players. Ho hum. Need to make a list.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#216 - 2014-05-05 19:20:04 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

We care about this game to shoot down all of the terrible ideas some people have.


Even if it means showing up at thier house and beating them with a ball bat. j/k


However, it's the ideas that are only terrible to some play styles and good for others that are the subject of concern. Even the gradual approach to doing away with highsec is a net loss for CCP, but many goons seem to support it anyway.


Yep I've had that threat tossed at me over an awox before. You highsec pubbies need to keep the rage and anger focused in-game.

E: Also the grand highsec pubbie rapture you all like to threaten us with will never happen.

Strange how it's the so called peaceful players who issue all the threats of violence and retribution outside of the game isn't it?


Pretty much, I don't understand what's so hard about drawing a line between real life and the game.

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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#217 - 2014-05-05 19:22:33 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
When did this degenerate into another Grr Gons thread?

and why?

You have a council, find the man or woman who will represent you the best. Contact them ask them questions. How they reply, how they listen . . . THAT is what is important.

Not what a select few of trolls in this thread are doing.

Might as well say I am 'fighting for the removal of complexes and escalations from null and wormhole space'* as they are only to be PvP. All PvE activities must be in highsec, right? right? Low only kind of counts so I guess they can have some things.

No

Wild death of any section of space is not what the council is for. Sorry, I wish I could make you all tinfoil hats so you could protect yourselves.

Back to the council composition.

What part of space do you think is missed in representation? Or did we finally manage to get diversity?

m

* - I am not fighting to make massive changes to remove parts of the game



I should have qualified my statement.
The CSM, dominated by the cartels, was extremely effective in their agenda.

Any resistance by the CSM members that supposedly were championing the high sec casual playstyle was either totally ignored or did not exist in the first place.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#218 - 2014-05-05 19:29:35 UTC
Hey anyone is better than dariusIII

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#219 - 2014-05-05 19:38:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
This is what it all boils down to.
On one side we have the libertarians, who adore Eve because it is their twisted vision of what their real world utopia is.
On the other side, you have the sane, moral, compassionate people, who are horrified by the distillation into a game of all that is wrong with humanity.

You belong to the former group, I take it, since nothing you've ever said comes off as sane, moral, or compassionate?

Quote:
ike I have said before, every pilot generating PvE income in high sec is someone not paying a tithe to the cartel leaders, and they can't have that.
How do you square that with all the pilots in highsec that, by mere existence, are handing over money to nullsec? Or with all the pilots in null who don't tithe anything to any kind of cartel leader?

Quote:
I should have qualified my statement.
The CSM, dominated by the cartels, was extremely effective in their agenda.
How do you square this with the very slow alteration of moon goo, with the nerfs to individual nullsec income, with the complete lack of sovereignty revamps, with the vey tame industry revamp in null, with the huge buffs to highsec, with the nerfs to power projection, and the severe lack of progress on the 5-year plan for null? If the CSM, dominated by these mythical cartels, were so extremely effective, how come nothing they have been asking for has happened?

Oh, and above all, if the cartels are as effective and powerful as you want them to be, how come you are still here? If what you say is true, you have no say in the matter… and yet, here you are, vomiting up all kinds of incoherent nonsense and no-one is stopping you. It doesn't seem to match your claims, now does it?
Marsha Mallow
#220 - 2014-05-05 19:42:23 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
I should have qualified my statement.
The CSM, dominated by the cartels, was extremely effective in their agenda.

Any resistance by the CSM members that supposedly were championing the high sec casual playstyle was either totally ignored or did not exist in the first place.

So put a highsec candidate up to uphold your playstyle. Nobody is forcing you to run, just support another person.

Or is organising a bloc vote amongst selfish, whiny little zombies commited to dumbing down everything so they can pump out Officer fit Golem lossmails just too much like hard work.

You seriously insult the credibility of both CCP and the CSM on so many levels and yet you remain ungagged. Kind of undermines your stance, wouldn't you say?

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day