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Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#41 - 2014-05-05 13:24:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarod Garamonde
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:

If Ramona had been a character in the Harry Potter books, instead of someone's EVE toon, she'd have probably been one of the first non-villains to bust out the dark arts.

Garamonde would have been the drunken ex-quidditch star shouting at first-years in Diagon Alley.


Aww thats so sweet of you to say Smile

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LOL

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
#42 - 2014-05-05 13:25:12 UTC
Dusties are funny :P
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#43 - 2014-05-05 13:29:23 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
I would suggest that rather than make it a subscription based game, that they simply make it ten bucks to play it.

A pay wall is almost as good as a subscription for keeping out the riffraff.


If that happened, then CCP would still have to rely on microtransactions to make the game profitable.
I thought we were against most forms of microtransactions here?


So long as it isn't as brutally pay to win as DUST is, I don't particularly mind.

What did you have in mind as a subscription price, by the way? Because no first person shooter in existence is worth $15 a month.


Not in existence but…
I would pay that for a Fallout 3 MMO. Everytime since I played the game and I see a person on the tv or movie screen die I have this weird urge to loot its corpse to see what he/she/it has on it. Just think of it with freely roaming super mutants attacking you from behind while you're trying tp PvP or you just set up your corp's shop in an abandoned vault only to find it run over with fire ants the next day.

Would definitely be a shut up and take my money case. :)

If CCP could somehow do something like that within the EVE universe, and not just a run and shoot everything but take the stuff that's on Tranquility and project it onto ground surface, awhmaigod… >.>
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#44 - 2014-05-05 13:29:37 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Which city is that? So I would know which city I should avoid, you know...


If you're planning on going to EVE Vegas, you might want to reconsider, then.


So I'm safe, me and my buddies choose only European cities as destinations for our yearly 'no wives or girlfriends allowed' festivities. At least for now but if we run out of those and we still be alive maybe we will cross an ocean to discover new lands. Who knows what future will bring?

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Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#45 - 2014-05-05 13:35:30 UTC
I wanted to run that by people, too....

Am I the only one that doesn't buy the overwhelmingly popular DUSTie excuse for being mad about Legion?

"I don't own a PC and can't afford one"

Who in the actual hell pays 40-50 a month for a gaming-quality internet connection, and only uses it for console games and Netflix?
And I don't see any smartphone as having the battery life to allow them to spew rage all over the forums for hours on end. Especially with the massive wall-o-text posts they were making.

Lying liars who lie.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#46 - 2014-05-05 13:38:08 UTC
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
I ususally leave games when they turn F2P.

I hate the cash shops constantly in my face.


So much this.

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Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
#47 - 2014-05-05 13:44:22 UTC
While i agree the Dust bunnies got boned, the fact remains that there is only a small handful of them playing the game. 4 or 5,000 active players spending a few bucks here and there is not enough to support game development or hosting. If CCP wasn't making any cash, why would they want to continue to drop company resources towards that particular game.

The PS4 is built more like a PC then the ps3 was. It leaves a door open to port Legion over without having to re-write the entire game. Couple that with the fact that the ps3 is hitting the landfills, and it makes sense for CCP from a business standpoint. I like to know the actual numbers, but i doubt Dust was even making the salary of 1 or 2 developers.

CCP should stick with what they know regarding pricing and the cost of playing their games. Give Legion the same payment system as EvE and call it a day. (aka, monthly sub, or PLEX if you want to grind it out.) If they want Legion to be another F2P game, it's going to die in a fire of 4-5 thousand players just like Dust did.

.

They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake.

**This IS my main so STFU.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#48 - 2014-05-05 13:47:48 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:


Who in the actual hell pays 40-50 a month for a gaming-quality internet connection, and only uses it for console games and Netflix?


Muggles?

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Aspalis
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2014-05-05 13:54:05 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:


Who in the actual hell pays 40-50 a month for a gaming-quality internet connection, and only uses it for console games and Netflix?


Australians?

Marcus Gord: "Aspalis is an onion. Many layers, each one makes you cry."
Gerdan BloodELF
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#50 - 2014-05-05 13:55:55 UTC
Aspalis wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:


Who in the actual hell pays 40-50 a month for a gaming-quality internet connection, and only uses it for console games and Netflix?


Australians?


As an Australian this is sadly true and its actually way more than the ammount quoted.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#51 - 2014-05-05 13:56:19 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Who in the actual hell pays 40-50 a month for a gaming-quality internet connection, and only uses it for console games and Netflix?


Parents of spoiled brats?

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Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#52 - 2014-05-05 13:57:05 UTC
Gerdan BloodELF wrote:
Aspalis wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:


Who in the actual hell pays 40-50 a month for a gaming-quality internet connection, and only uses it for console games and Netflix?


Australians?


As an Australian this is sadly true and its actually way more than the ammount quoted.


Gods, and I thought us Yanks were getting boned on internet bills....

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#53 - 2014-05-05 14:03:32 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Is it safe to say that the drama and ragebile-spewing on the DUST forums is proof-positive of why you don't make F2P games?


I think it's safe to say it's proof positive CCP should discourage players less than 16 years of age. Possibly they could also enforce a minimum IQ to play akin to the height requirement for many carnival rides.

You must be this smart: 110+
To play this game.

I envision a new type of IQ captcha that must be solved prior to creating an account.

/quietly files patent application.

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Aspalis
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2014-05-05 14:03:51 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Gerdan BloodELF wrote:
Aspalis wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:


Who in the actual hell pays 40-50 a month for a gaming-quality internet connection, and only uses it for console games and Netflix?


Australians?


As an Australian this is sadly true and its actually way more than the ammount quoted.


Gods, and I thought us Yanks were getting boned on internet bills....


Oh, you get boned alright. You get boned good.
Heh heh.

Marcus Gord: "Aspalis is an onion. Many layers, each one makes you cry."
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#55 - 2014-05-05 14:05:06 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Is it safe to say that the drama and ragebile-spewing on the DUST forums is proof-positive of why you don't make F2P games?


I think it's safe to say it's proof positive CCP should discourage players less than 16 years of age. Possibly they could also enforce a minimum IQ to play akin to the height requirement for many carnival rides.

You must be this smart: 110+
To play this game.

I envision a new type of IQ captcha that must be solved prior to creating an account.

/quietly files patent application.




EVE's ridiculous learning curve was supposed to be the IQ-level regulator. That obviously has been circumvented, considering some of the people we deal with on a daily basis.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
#56 - 2014-05-05 14:08:20 UTC
$40-$50 a month for internet? Are you guys talking Euros or something? ShockedBig smileBig smile

My internet is 3x that here in New England. (Comcast,.. err Comcrap, depending on how it's working.)

With some of the games I like to play, I have zero tolerance for slow connections and bad ping rates. With EvE, most patches take a few minutes or less and even an expansion download takes around 10 minutes.

.

They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake.

**This IS my main so STFU.
Aspalis
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2014-05-05 14:08:30 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Is it safe to say that the drama and ragebile-spewing on the DUST forums is proof-positive of why you don't make F2P games?


I think it's safe to say it's proof positive CCP should discourage players less than 16 years of age. Possibly they could also enforce a minimum IQ to play akin to the height requirement for many carnival rides.

You must be this smart: 110+
To play this game.

I envision a new type of IQ captcha that must be solved prior to creating an account.

/quietly files patent application.




EVE's ridiculous learning curve was supposed to be the IQ-level regulator. That obviously has been circumvented, considering some of the people we deal with on a daily basis.


You mean people like you? :p

Marcus Gord: "Aspalis is an onion. Many layers, each one makes you cry."
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#58 - 2014-05-05 14:15:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Is it safe to say that the drama and ragebile-spewing on the DUST forums is proof-positive of why you don't make F2P games?


I think it's safe to say it's proof positive CCP should discourage players less than 16 years of age. Possibly they could also enforce a minimum IQ to play akin to the height requirement for many carnival rides.

You must be this smart: 110+
To play this game.

I envision a new type of IQ captcha that must be solved prior to creating an account.

/quietly files patent application.




EVE's ridiculous learning curve was supposed to be the IQ-level regulator. That obviously has been circumvented, considering some of the people we deal with on a daily basis.


Exactly. CCP has been flattening that curve.

I do realize my new requirements would potentially eliminate a lot of goons (and others), but as a community I am certain we can muddle through, and goons (for instance) could take this as a real opportunity to leverage their SA forums for education purposes to "graduate" viable and quasi-educated EVE players who could at least solve the captcha without their mom's help.

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#59 - 2014-05-05 14:19:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarod Garamonde
Aspalis wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Is it safe to say that the drama and ragebile-spewing on the DUST forums is proof-positive of why you don't make F2P games?


I think it's safe to say it's proof positive CCP should discourage players less than 16 years of age. Possibly they could also enforce a minimum IQ to play akin to the height requirement for many carnival rides.

You must be this smart: 110+
To play this game.

I envision a new type of IQ captcha that must be solved prior to creating an account.

/quietly files patent application.




EVE's ridiculous learning curve was supposed to be the IQ-level regulator. That obviously has been circumvented, considering some of the people we deal with on a daily basis.


You mean people like you? :p


There's a difference between stupid people, and insufferable bellends like me.
I'm actually quite intelligent and not at all as pedantic, in real life.... but in EVE, I'm a pirate with a slapstick wit and a penchant for being boneheaded but competent.
That's how I slipped my horrifying sense of humor past the learning curve. By being actually smart and taking it out on you lot.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Aspalis
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2014-05-05 14:20:18 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Aspalis wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Is it safe to say that the drama and ragebile-spewing on the DUST forums is proof-positive of why you don't make F2P games?


I think it's safe to say it's proof positive CCP should discourage players less than 16 years of age. Possibly they could also enforce a minimum IQ to play akin to the height requirement for many carnival rides.

You must be this smart: 110+
To play this game.

I envision a new type of IQ captcha that must be solved prior to creating an account.

/quietly files patent application.




EVE's ridiculous learning curve was supposed to be the IQ-level regulator. That obviously has been circumvented, considering some of the people we deal with on a daily basis.


You mean people like you? :p


There's a difference between stupid people, and insufferable bellends like me.
I'm actually quite intelligent and not at all as pedantic, in real life.
That's how I slipped my horrifying sense of humor past the learning curve. By being actually smart and taking it out on you lot.


My, that went down fast with hook, line and sinker. Lol

Marcus Gord: "Aspalis is an onion. Many layers, each one makes you cry."