Player Features and Ideas Discussion

It's balancing the fact, that you're practically invulnerable while cloaked. It already allows you to gather much valuable information without the enemy being able to counter it. If you want even more detailed information, it's perfectly reasonable to expect you to put your ship at risk in order to gain it.

Just completely skipped the idea of being able to lock immediately after dropping cloak, no 5 second delay, and went straight for the jugular didn't you?

If you could lock people while cloaked cloaking devices really would be the bane of everyone's existence in Eve. People's complaints that cloaks are ruining the game would be justified. As it is they are balanced with an appropriate amount of drawbacks to their advantages. Leave that alone.

There are already enough people who are wanting anti-cloaking ways....this just gives them more of an excuse to get one. Cloaking is fine the way it is, its balanced, it allows intel gathering without posing a serious combat advantage....yeah some ships can cloak and warp and then decloak and fire, but in that time they must lock you and fire.

Soo in short, no cloaked ships should never be allowed to lock under cloak. Even in modern times, a stealth vessel must get close enough to be noticed to get high quality intel. The risk reward is that the closer you are and more visible you are, the more intel you get, the further back and hidden you are the less intel you get. Its balanced...leave it as is.

Have you ever snuck up on someone in a covert ops cloak and uncloaked right beside them while they're busy? Going unnoticed for 5 seconds is nothing. If I could lock someone while cloaked, decloak, and start firing without any warning whatsoever on people I sneak up on I would have 100% control of every fight I ever engage in, and could thus ensure that I come very, very close to a 100% success rate.

Everybody wants to win at PvP. Just imagine how exciting PvP would be if there was one, and only one, way to guarantee success and everything else was just a waste of time.

Forget scanning. Locking is the only thing you need to do while being cloaked to break PvP in every way. Just drop the idea.

currently covert ops gathers info just fine. You can see fleet composition, position and activities, and you can even see weapon types if you look (with your eyes not your modules)

The fact that they can do this from complete safety unless the pilot is a moron makes covert ops ships a 0 risk intel gathering machine.

Nothing in Eve should be 0 risk.

You can glean a lot about fittings by visual inspection. IMO that is enough to be able to do while cloaked.

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