Player Features and Ideas Discussion

That's all nice and dandy, but how do I get moon mineral (and products from them) for a reasonable price in Amarr or other Hubs, let alone border regions? How do I get combat booster stuff to Amarr for a reasonable price? How reasonably priced rare minerals? I do produce in Domain and I do produce only for Amarr market, but I need Jita and the cheap prices there to be competitive. If I'd use Amarr's premium prices for the materials and components, I could not produce at all. And dividing the empires with Low sec and thus making it near impossible to get the required rare stuff for an affordable price into other regions, would not help to foster production there, it would in my opinion rather hamper it a lot.

Some people would certainly bring their moon mineral products to other hubs more frequently, but they would also ask for a higher price, which reduces on the one hand the producers profits and subsequently on the other hand the seller's turnover and he would leave the market again.

They would be affected because they need to be moved into various regions, which would be a harder, but people would either have to do it to keep their turnovers or producers would need to export from the still unbroken hub into other regions and lose money.

I of course keep in mind that prices simply should rise if production gets more expensive, but that is not consistently the case. Not everyone pays the same higher prices, there are punks from other regions who produce for cheaper and just undercut you or throw the market into an irregular rollercoaster, simply because minerals and moon stuff is more expensive in your region - and this could be influenced quite easily into locking out an entire region from domestic trade and production. And don't say, this can never happen - it is a 100% certainty that it WILL happen, because this is EVE. Not really good outlook in my opinion.

I don't see that happening, exactly for the reasons I pointed out accompanying this quote.

Why would traversing low-sec be difficult? This is the part I don't understand. You are crossing a borderzone, which I'm assuming means you can setup a cyno in a low-sec system neighbouring a high-sec system on the other side. You can jump into a cyno at a safe with your JF, warp to the gate, and jump through.

By splitting the empires like this, those willing to actually play the game can still trade properly while those who wish to autopilot or take 0 risk will be confined to trading local commodities. It's more balanced IMO. If there is a demand for certain products in outside regions, you will see pilots who don't mind the risk take advantage of such opportunities. Markets will become more dynamic, and trading/hauling will become less of a chore and more of an experience.

why not even make the different region be on Brinck of war and Close Down all border gates from time to time, that will choke the flow even more.

hmmmm, shutting down gates?

A very simple yet very intriguing idea.

Not sure if i'm for or against it yet. I'll have to do some thinking to figure out the possible implications.

+1 for brain storming

I'm still totally against this idea. It basically still forces those who have no wish to travel through losec to do so if they want realistic profits. Trade and business os something requiring stability and in my view hisec should be optimized for this. Want more player mobility? Make the regions better st different things and people will travel between them whilsf those who don't wish to won't have to. All that will happen is that hisec will bdcome a group of impoverished ghettos. Bad for players and bad for the game

MORE lowsec that is not in FW would be nice, more cruisers in low would be nice.

i do like this idea low-sec is fairly dead and allways has been, this would bring low-sec a new life and it would allso bring new jobs or help jobs in eve such as


anti-pirates: these would be more useful in eve as there would be a increase of pirates across one plain

Hauler protection: with the new skiff buff coming people payed to protect a group of miners etc wont be needed much anymore this would give them a new lease on life as protectors

like you mentioned indy pilots have blockade runners that are very easy to break through camps very easy, freighters would have to be guarded and made worth the haul meaning they would fill to top instead of 1 item or so in a freighter because it is that safe, each trade hub would be more specialized making buying things more "ohhh i need this dodixie/amarr/jita/rens" does it for cheaper ill go there instead" instead of the current "ohhhh i need this ill go jita".

would allso mean that players would be more scattered around eve instead of in the set systems making ganking harder and releasing stress on servers for the allready crowded systems

Doom-saying: m0o

Cite me events that strained the relationship between Amarr and Caldari. I don't care for the others, to be honest, but give me a couple of examples for deteriorating relations between Amarr and Caldari.

No, I ignore your ignorance for the lore.

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Nothing would change. The Low sec, which is dead today, is also going to be dead after such a change; nothing would change for Aridia, Solitude, Devoid, Derelik, Molden Heath, Khanid or other not important Low sec areas. Only a very select few systems between the empires would be busy with gankers looking for easy kills.

Blockade Runners are far from invincible and with properly set up gate camps and smartbombers, they die like flies. You can also not protect freighters from ganks, because the gankers would just alpha or 2-shot the freighter with Nados. Loading it to the brim is already been done, and values then range from 400M for Veld to several double-digit billions. Low value freighters would cost more to defend than the transport is worth, and moving double-digit billion freighter through Low sec, even with a seizable protection fleet, is prone to attract really big fleets, which you can hardly defend against.

Jumpfreightering the stuff around is also risky because of bumping pilots on stations, who either bump you off station when you jump in or when you align to the gates (Just look at Ignoitton). Insta-undocks don't work because then they combat probe you in seconds and POS on a near insta-undock moon in popular cyno systems would be very likely hostile or, of you dare to set one up, removed and replaced.