Market Discussions

I believe fuel blocks, isotopes and small and medium towers will all rise in the short term after the summer expansion. After about 6 months or so I do see the market for these products starting a downward slide and continuing down for a long time.

New players and smaller corps will be thrilled to own a POS. Most likely they will start with a small or medium tower in a close to hub location. Given how easy it is to destroy a small or medium tower, new or tiny corps will get a wardec and their towers will be destroyed. We all know that some larger corps love to dish out grief or these corps will be allowed to stay if they pay a "fee". Either way some players are going to learn the hard way about owning a POS.

In about 3-6 months after players get sick of having their POS's blown up, paying fees to "stay safe" or realize it is not very profitable I think you will see the market start to get flooded with towers and fuel. In the end only larger corps who can defend themselves will be able to sustain research/manufacturing POS's. The biggest reason to own a POS, post expansion is the compressing array.

In the end tiny alt corps (1-5 members) will have to move to the far ends of EVE to have profitable research in a station or give up entirely. I have already taken down my research POS's and will try the station route. I know of other tiny corps doing the same thing.

I am not complaining, it is what it is. In EVE you either adjust or die. I believe this will not work as CCP predicts and will actually make the science industry much less appealing. The little 1 or 2 player alt corps that currently run a lot of POS's will slowly die as possibly having to defend them will be a huge issue. The question is will those POS's be replaced by larger research corps?

My prediction is in 6 months or so after the expansion, the prices of everything related to the POS will have suffered except large POS's and the new compressing array.

Whether isotopes change in price largely depends on those that are currently manipulating them.

I'm quite impressed at the job they've been doing too.

I wouldn't be surprised i pos taxes end up like the other tax and fees we have so far. Like broker fees and the tax on reprocessing that are reduced as your standing increases with the faction or npc station holder

New info makes me happy, I predict POS usage will stay the same though, because of the dropping of lots of research towers. Will probably see a shift away from Caldari towards minmatar (beefier defense). It's no longer necessary to stack tons of CPU-intensive structures, after all.

O RLY?

Gladly I bought the wrong racial type for the last Ice Interdiction, 20mil gone so far gonna hold out for 1100 mark but tbh I'm just glad to finally get rid of them.

Finally my Rorqual is worth something again (I have a stockpile of Oxygen Isotopes for it).

Here's the link: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=340420

Well CCP expects for prices to go down which does make sense considering that tax in npc station comes to 0.2-0.4% (its 1.1x) in end product price and all else is the same regarding installation costs thus removing the need for POS (unless you NEED faster production or something else POS specific) and with infinite lines at poses people can move from large pos to medium or small and still do the same thing thus almost halving the demand for POS fuel.

Increasing ice usage for jump drive thread
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=340420
This:
Stimulate the isotope (and therefore ice) market to help cushion any drop in demand from players using smaller starbases after the science and industry slot changes.

Pos will provide not only significantly faster research, copying, and invention, but lower cost of taxes, AND a 2% reduction in material usage for manufacturing, on top of everything else. This means that working out of a pos will still not only be worthwhile, but essential for maximizing profits for large scale builders.

However, a lot of people who currently use large towers will likely downgrade to mediums or smalls. This will have a moderate effect on isotope prices, even with the increased jumpdrive consumption, but should have a drastic effect on the price of PI pos fuel.