Out of Pod Experience

What about Leela or Amy Wong from Futurama?

The Bechdel Test is frequently misunderstood. Movies that pass it aren't necessarily gender-equal. Both Anchorman movies pass the Bechdel test, for instance. It's extremely easy to pass it. The point it makes is that any movie that fails the test without a really good reason is filled to the brim with masculist garbage. The most common exceptions are movies with too few characters to require two women to have dialogue with each other. Alien passes, but only barely. There are only two women (7 characters total), and one of the women (Lambert) doesn't talk much at all. At one point she lunges at Ripley and screams "You bítch!!!" which right there passes all 3 clauses of the Bechdel Test. So it doesn't take much. But the rest of the movie gets a pass because it has very little character development due to its focus on the alien, not the characters.

What about JJ Abrams' Star Trek movies? They have lots of characters, and lots of character development. The focus is constantly on the characters and how they interact with each other. The characters are constantly having conversations with each other. The movie would pass the reverse Bechdel test dozens of times throughout the entire thing. But does it pass the Bechdel test?

Debatably. Uhura's roommate is named (Gaila), and they talk about a Klingon transmission. This is while Kirk is naked under the bed, hiding. Knowing Kirk is watching, Uhura strips down to her underwear while talking to Gaila.

What about the rest of the movie?

Nope.

What about Into Darkness?

Nope.

remiscent of Uma Thurman's character in Kill Bill

They were all connected to Disney. So, you have extra tabs in your binders... I'm not impressed. I ignore the tabs and retain equal opportunity across the board if they can fit a position. Men, women, and all the little details that make people seem different. I just don't blare it out from atop the mountain to get people to think I care. It's usually the people that do that - that are the ones that really don't care. Always the contradiction when you look deeper. Then there are of course those that just accept and follow, but usually something going on under the surface nonetheless. When it's pushed to some form of pissing contest to whom cares the most, usually the individuals needing the most caring are dispensed with and forgotten, really. If you want to make change, you do it in your own world, you walk the talk and set an example by your own actions. What other people do, that's their own problems.

I don't think there's anything fake or weak about relying on men. It's a very human thing to do and it shouldn't detract from how tough a person might be. Million Dollar Baby is a good example of interdependence between two very tough characters.

I think what people hate about Britney, Lindsay, Jennifer, and Miley is that they don't contribute anything particularly unique or amazing to their chosen professions. People always have the right to produce garbage as art.. no one should ever restrict it, but the Mr. Brainwash's of the world will unfortunately always overshadow the Banksy's or Shepard Fairey's.

Of course the entire reason for this is because society doesn't equip authors to actually write decent female characters.

I mostly blame that on the film actors guild and the writers they hire. Yes, they think they are woman-like but they're not.
Then for the rest, well... hehe

Perhaps one of the biggest parts of the problem is that nearly every character in film that is female is a "female character". Most characters that are male are not a "male character". It's easier to write characters for male roles when you have convinced yourself that men are the norm and women are the outsiders. Men can play any role except a woman. Women can only play a woman or some crazy character who is a woman deep down inside but is fighting society over it and making a pitiful attempt at convincing people otherwise.

If the writers could see that men and women aren't so different, they would find it's easy to cast women in roles. You make characters, then you assign actors. It's easier than what they are doing because you never stop and make sure the actors are men.

Kandy Krush Saga.

Farmville.

eve is definitely not representative. lol

i, too, have very very often been the single female representative in fleet operations or on comms in general. i don't think any of us need to be reminded of gender percentages in eve. that's been talked about to death. if you do need reminded just watch the fanfest stream lol.

i believe the statistic krix mentioned has a lot to do with mobile app gaming or social media gaming. i do plenty of that myself. it's far more accessible, far more simply designed and just easier to play here and there with no real commitment.

So when Lambert lunges at Ripley and screams "You bítch!", that was improv?

It probably was, actually.

Referring to women as girls is not really chauvanism, for the most part. I haven't noticed any trend toward telling women that being girls is immature or not to be desired, rather just the opposite, women are supposed to act young, cute, and childish--while still being encouraged to be mature and (somewhat) self-sufficient. Boys are taught that they need too act older, stronger, and more mature/experienced than they really are. If anything, men are getting the short end of the stick here.

I see lots of examples of people pointing at things as being chauvanist that really aren't. One of the big ones that bugs me a lot is when feminists get mad at female characters discussing sex or sexual topics. Women having sexual thoughts is normal. The belief in our society that sex is a man's thing is one of the most sexist and chauvanistic things you could possibly come up with. To suggest that women in movies should avoid being sexualized at all is tantamount to suggesting that they should only be sexualized as props or plot devices for the male characters. Gender equality is when a female character can do what male characters do in movies: seduce people, control the relationship, and wield the power to end the relationship.