Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Time for old-fart-mode

Just be glad you have a skill que man, i remember what this game was like before them and that was down-right silly... 24h is fine, you wanna be away from game for a while longer pick a long skill or ask a friend...

My current default "long skill for vacations" is Capital ships 5

This.

The too often repeated idea that some stoned player will forget that they only logged in to change skills, and start playing, is delusional.

In a game with so many meta-gaming connections, you already know when your friends need you, if you cared to know.
You saw them in the IM channels you were logged into, or saw a forum post days beforehand with an event scheduled.

If you logged in just to bump skills, you already decided to log out because you either never had the time or desire to play to begin with.

Making the skill queue more user friendly is good for everyone.

Except that stoned guy. He stayed logged in.
Sure, he is blowing up corp mates, but at least he is still online, right?

If they made some apps for non PC clients that would be dandy. Most people now have smartphones or tablet devices and I think this could alleviate problems with skill training if you went on holiday for instance. Also the idea that your friend could log into your account is absurd since it is against the EULA to share accounts.

No one cares… Well, at least no one but bitter old vets. How about this: Anyone paying ($) for their subscription should get an expanded skill queue - no questions asked. Whether those players login every day or only once a month, they're the ones actually generating the revenue for EVE.

No - some players generate content, which is not the same. You can try to equate that with revenue, but at the end of the day while content may attract players - it ultimately doesn't pay for the game.

Maybe set the Skill Training Queue up to be similar to ISIS.

You have the main skill that you are training for lets say Drones. You drag and the drop the Drones primary skill book into the Skill Queue Slot. Then based on you Advanced Skill Learning level skill would determine how may additional slots you would have available to train skills under the skill Drones.


Advanced Skill Learning Skill Book Cost 100,000,000 ISK - Pre-requisites : Cybernetics Level 5, Infomorph Psychology Level 5, , Infomorph Synchronizing Level 5 Adv. Infomorph Psychology Level 5 and Hot Dog Making Level 5.

Level One Advanced Skill Learning : 1 slot / two hour train time
Level Two Advanced Skill Learning : 2 slots / ten hour train time
Level Three Advanced Skill Learning : 3 slots / 2 day train time
Level Four Advanced Skill Learning : 4 slots / 7 day train time
Level Five Advanced Skill Learning : 5 slots / twenty day train time

Once the pre-requisites have been learned then the use of the ASLK can be trained. The ASLK would have a draw back as well similar to the T3 Cruiser skill loss that if you are using the ASLK at the time of combat and are podded you would lose 200%( each hour being considered a 50% training modifier) of the availability of the levels of the skill learned. For example if you are training ASLK to level one and are podded you lose the entire use of the training slot as well as an additional two hours thus making the new training time for level one four hours.

When using the ASLK System you could only train in a single skill category at a time opposed to any skill with the regular training system. Each skill would then train based on its tree placement that when the first skill has been finished above the root skill category the system would then train the next skill in sequence.

Let's use Drones again for the primary skill set being trained using the ASKL System. You have trained the ASKL to level four so you have four slots available in which to drag and drop the skills you want to learn without a time dilation of regular method of training being applied - Drones would first have to be trained to Level 5 in order to drag and drop it into the ASLK. From there you could place any skill associated with Drones into the training queue boxes. If you attempt to inject a skill that has not met the pre-requisites a red X would appear in the box.

Using the ASLK System would also require visiting a specialized station located within randomly selected systems in each empire. Null space Alliances would have to equip their own facilities to necessitate the use the ASLK System.

Once the ASLK had been turned on by the station services regular skill training could not occur and the system would have to be turned off in order for regular skill training to take place.

The price of the switch at the station would be 100,000 per level of the ASLK learned.

I respectfully disagree.

If EVE were a journey, I would be getting SP for every rat I killed, every rock I mined.

If I had Freighters at level 2, I should be able to get 20% use out of my Freighter instead of waiting until level 5-Advanced Spaceship Command to just fly it. (for example)

Eve is very much "destination" oriented. The only journey is the waiting for the skill queue to tick down.

No but I wont have to babysit it as much either.

Noone is stopping you, or asking that you cannot be able to log in and check this way while bumping your skills.
Forcing it on everyone else is another matter.

Do you object to people not checking?
I doubt others want to be railroaded into logging in for something if they are not interested.

Do you assume that everyone has both the time and desire to grab play opportunities?
I don't care how tempting something is, if I have no time I ain't gonna stay and play.

Yes, but some people have a life.

I play EVE.

EVE doesnt play me.