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When is a Poco tax too high
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opey1 canoli
Artemisa Investments Inc.
#1 - 2014-04-28 20:46:43 UTC  |  Edited by: opey1 canoli
Just wonder at what point people will move there PI.

I am using hi sec planets. It's like having a slum lord.

I'm looking to move existing PI with 16% + tax rates.

of course, it's time consuming and some isk is put into new facilities but wth.
Ginger Barbarella
#2 - 2014-04-28 21:05:53 UTC
Personally, if you're paying more than 10% net taxes, you're overpaying. Take your business elsewhere. If people insist on exploiting it, get out of the business.

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Volar Kang
Kang Industrial
#3 - 2014-04-28 23:18:06 UTC
If you move away from the trade hubs, you can find a lot of POCO's owned by one and two man alt corps that no longer play. Just pay a merc corp to take out their POCO's and then put up nice new ones for yourself. It will take a bit of time to make the cost back but you will get near-free PI from now on AND make money from others using your planets.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-04-28 23:26:54 UTC
Shoot those POCO's then put your own up, and let us know if you offer 0% tax. Blink

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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#5 - 2014-04-28 23:37:57 UTC

I control several nullsec POCO's, and usually leave rates at ~3% or less. I'd imagine highsec POCO owners would rarely set their rattes above 5% unless they are purposely trying to drive away business.
opey1 canoli
Artemisa Investments Inc.
#6 - 2014-04-29 00:33:33 UTC
yea was wondering if they were looking to drive away business. anyhow...looking around for 10%.

16% is not worth it.

thanks.
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2014-04-29 01:03:49 UTC
The cut-off point is at 15%. Why? Because at that point it becomes cheaper to launch it using the command center. Personally I think 10% is reasonable and up to 15% is pushing it but doable.

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Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
#8 - 2014-04-30 16:11:36 UTC
It's not uncommon to see high sec POCO taxes at between 17% and 25% including having trained the POCO tax skill up to level five.

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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#9 - 2014-05-03 15:39:02 UTC
Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn wrote:
It's not uncommon to see high sec POCO taxes at between 17% and 25% including having trained the POCO tax skill up to level five.


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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
#10 - 2014-05-03 18:01:31 UTC
Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn wrote:
It's not uncommon to see high sec POCO taxes at between 17% and 25% including having trained the POCO tax skill up to level five.

This is high sec PVP at work.. they are trying to make the area the least attractive as possible to competition.

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Qmamoto Kansuke
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#11 - 2014-05-04 12:06:46 UTC
Some people are just greedy when i was emptying one planet i had tax of 10% 30minutes later the poco owner decided that since im emptying my planets i should pay 11%.Lol
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#12 - 2014-05-04 13:06:36 UTC
Do it in Low Sec.

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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#13 - 2014-05-04 13:14:28 UTC
Qmamoto Kansuke wrote:
Some people are just greedy when i was emptying one planet i had tax of 10% 30minutes later the poco owner decided that since im emptying my planets i should pay 11%.Lol


Something similar happened to one of my W-Space PI alts. After a few months with 10% tax, the owner suddenly decided to jump up the tax to 25% and since I was too lazy to do anything about it, again a few weeks later the owner just gave up and closed access completely.

Cue me having to search for another wormhole, tearing down the old PI-factories, building them again in the new wormhole. All paid for by the materials I had to smuggle out of the old wormhole via command center.

Now that I've learned from this, I've integrated my command center deep into my setup so I can't be surprised like that anymore. If my new POCO-owners decide to become greedy, I can just evade them completely. Lol

In HighSec of course planets are rather sparse with ressources and instead of doing a weird tax-avoidance setup like this moving is always better.