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Isidro Orlenard
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2014-05-02 15:30:35 UTC
Isidro Orlenard wrote:
I've encountered the term "care bear" in a few posts, can anyone clarify what that means?


NVM, found this: https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Carebear

I guess for my purposes, I'm more interested in mining/missions/etc. and not direct PvP.... I will engage if attacked by others if I think I can win, but I'll probably just run away if I can. I would like to fly with my friends and join a player corp though, so I'm not a pure carebear, I guess.

When I have a good handle on things and can afford losing and spending ISK for LOLz, then I'll be more open to direct PvP.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#22 - 2014-05-02 15:56:20 UTC
Isidro Orlenard wrote:
Isidro Orlenard wrote:
I've encountered the term "care bear" in a few posts, can anyone clarify what that means?


NVM, found this: https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Carebear

I guess for my purposes, I'm more interested in mining/missions/etc. and not direct PvP.... I will engage if attacked by others if I think I can win, but I'll probably just run away if I can. I would like to fly with my friends and join a player corp though, so I'm not a pure carebear, I guess.

When I have a good handle on things and can afford losing and spending ISK for LOLz, then I'll be more open to direct PvP.



You're a carebear ... but more along the lines of what "Carebears" were back when I started, rather than those of today who want "safety" delivered on a silver platter from CCP ... rather than working to ensure their own.


however, DO NOT start your own corp right off the bat ... learn, then do (else you'll probably find out one of the many "downsides" first hand, and be unprepared).

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Isidro Orlenard
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2014-05-02 16:16:17 UTC
Nah... I know there are rules, I know there are ways around those rules, and I know the game is open sandbox. We will try our best to be safe, but it is the unknown and the need to stay on our toes (no AFK mining!) that will give a bit of fun in the game. Playing in total safety is meh.

No intention of starting my own corp, but will be looking for a mining or non-PvP corp in a few days.

Watching some YT vids now and reminds me a bit of X3 Terran Conflict... but looking forward to pairing up with my son and doing a mining run together instead of comparing notes of our different universes in X3. Would be fun to actually SEE each other in the same place in the game.
Vol Arm'OOO
Central Co-Prosperity Union
#24 - 2014-05-02 17:52:15 UTC
Carebear is a broad term - in general in eve it means anybody who avoids PVP and/or does pve activities. However it also means anybody who does pvp in a way that you do not like or approve of, or beat you when you feel you should have won had things been the way you believe they should be.

As for pvp v pve, just give pvp chance - from my experience, once someone starts down the pvp route they never look back.

I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#25 - 2014-05-03 15:03:45 UTC
As soon as you join a corp you will be introduced to real carebears, don't worry.

At some point someone, somewhere is going to shoot you in the face. The corpmate that says "lets try and kill him" is not a carebear. The guy that goes mining 5 jumps out and complains a lot about it, is probably a carebear.

And you will enjoy PVP, you just don't know it yet. I'd recommend watching a lot of youtube videos about it, to see how other people go about it. PVE will eventually get boring and you will want to break it up with more exiting activities.
Isidro Orlenard
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2014-05-03 16:45:32 UTC
Hahaha.... You're all trying to get me addicted,like yourselves, aren't you?! Twisted

If I'm honest, I will try PvP later on simply because I don't want to write off an idea until I've given it a fair and thorough trial.
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#27 - 2014-05-05 07:20:49 UTC
Velicitia wrote:

however, DO NOT start your own corp right off the bat ...


I created my own corp early on to avoid 11 % taxes of NPC corporations. Cant imagine how much money it saved me, actually. My taxes now is 0% and since I behave myself I never saw a single war declaration yet. Maybe I will after this post, but I can always drop this corp and create a new one.

Absolutely free head start for newcomers!. Just click the link and get extra 250 000 SP!
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#28 - 2014-05-05 11:29:28 UTC
Isidro Orlenard wrote:
Hahaha.... You're all trying to get me addicted,like yourselves, aren't you?! Twisted

If I'm honest, I will try PvP later on simply because I don't want to write off an idea until I've given it a fair and thorough trial.



The best thing about PvP is that your opponents have better AI than they do in PvE. Sometimes, at least.

And they drop better loot.

Mara Rinn wrote:
Isidro Orlenard wrote:
1. Can anyone tell me how much PvE is available in EVE and if it is possible to do "raids" or mission runs with maybe 1 or 2 other players? Are there missions that would be difficult for one person but would be great fun if done with a small party?


I have had immense fun running Level 4 security missions (which are typically boring since I am over-skilled and over-geared for them) with friends, while all of us are flying cruisers (I tend to fly logistics cruisers such as the Osprey, my friends will fly Ruptures and Caracals). The fun comes from the risk of loss, and the knowledge that what we are doing is silly.

As for paying for your play time using in-game currency? It's a worthy enough goal, and you're looking at making 700-800M ISK/month to fund your game time in this way. My partner funds game time by hauling other people's junk around: buy low, sell high, make a billion-odd ISK a month. I do the same thing, though I also do contract salvaging, mission-running, mining, etc. My partner has much more discipline and focus than I do.


I have a standing policy on lowsec roams (which is when you get a few people together and go looking for fights in low-security space). Each system where nothing is happening, do the most lucrative of the PvE 'anomaly' sites that is present in the system. They are hilariously funny in PvP fits with a (single) cheap logistics ship. Best of all, you look like total scrubs to anyone else that is looking for a fight.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Jori McKie
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2014-05-05 12:47:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Jori McKie
You have to start thinking different about EVE PvP, let me try to explain.
I'm coming from Starcraft, i was used to the rush a 1on1 is delivering, the adrenaline pumping etc. After some 3000 games in Starcraft it faded away, it got repetitive, predictable, more or less.

Disclaimer this is my experience about small scale and solo PvP.
The first 100 PvP encounters are overwhelming more i ever experienced but even after 3000kills in EVE there is still that adrenaline pumping, you are cooled down, experienced but it is never repetitive, predictable. That is the thing about EVE PvP even after 4 years, PvP is still a lot of fun.

Look at this PvP Videos from Rooks and Kings. Lord Maldoror, the FC has ice in his veins.
Clarion Call 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrYe_4vHzgE
Anatomy Of a Fight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMFahR4wXTg

or for solo and small scale check:
Kovorix - Everlasting II: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMU2SsF0IZk
Kil2 - ARMAGEDDON: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2psM6BC3Jo
Garmon - Garmonation Series - old but still good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Lz6v6d4


There are a lot of PvP vidoes out there to give you a taste what is possible in EVE, just scroll through the "My EVE" forum
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=262

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." - Abrazzar
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