Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This is a TERRIBLE idea.

As it is its a royal pain shipping moon goo to high sec.

At your current suggested levels, it will be CHEAPER to titan bridge a full freighter, than to use my JF.


This is a BAD PLAN......

Now, if you give the JF and Rorq. a bonus to fuel consumption, and jack up the prices to move all other capitals... I would be ok with the change.

While yes, changes could be made.

Making this kind of a change, prior to seeing the need for it, is a terrible idea.


They are speculating on the market.


This really is uncharted territory, no one knows what will happen post change.

There are several "other" ways of subsidizing the ice farmer market, but at this point, no evidence yet exists that the changes they are making will have the outcome they suspect might happen. Thus there is no need to rush into any change. 2-4 weeks after June 3 they will have clear evidence and can then make a change, either this one or something else.

That's only the hisec local. The locals in null and low oppose the idea as the teamsters plan to increase transport fees to compensate.
They recommend:
1) Change Cyno behavior so that as soon as the cyno ship is destroyed, the explosion disrupts the cyno signal causing portals to drop and jump drives to lose their locks. This would require progressively stronger cyno ships as fleet size increases, or the cyno could go down with only part of the fleet moved. Deploying a large fleet now becomes riskier than jumping a small gang. Risk vs reward.
2) Prevent portals from being opened within 15km of a POS shield. That is the distance needed for the Jump Bridge to be anchored from a POS shield, apply the same mechanic to a ship based jump portal. This would require ships be deployed to guard the bridging ship lest a gank fleet jump in as soon as the fleet has jumped out. When combined with #1 above, it would allow a fleet to trap a freighter bridging from a Titan by destroying the cyno as soon as it is lit, trapping the Titan and Freighter 15km from a pos shield. This would make JF a viable alternative to losing a freighter and titan, and stimulate the isotope market.
3) Re-examine the distribution of racial ice anomalies. If increasing local resource gathering is the goal, then all resources should be available to harvest locally. If you have 4 racial carriers, freighters, or towers, you need 4 racial isotopes to power them. Without all 4 racial anomalies available locally, there is no incentive to do anything but gather the most profitable resource, sell it, and buy what you need at the markets in hisec. Break up distribution into 1-3 constellation blocks with different racial anoms. It could also serve to encourage trade between local friendly corps/alliances who now live in bordering areas with different resources... and conflicts between unfriendly bordering entities who desire the other's resources.

I agree with you completely.
It is difficult to put sarcasm into words on paper. The delivery is what makes a lot of sarcastic remarks work.

With rigs for freighters and jumpfreighters, it means you will be able to jump more m3 per trip - that alleviates some of the added cost from jumpfuel requirement- and compression/reprocessing changes.

Fozzie I want an update from you or someone on your team by/on Monday or I will write a letter explaining how upset i am at CCPs lack of communication after receiving feed back that nearly unanimously say "dont do this."

speaking as one of the little guys. (npc null pvp alliance).
apart from jump freighter runs we barely use ice products.
titan bridges are almost non existant, blops something we do for fun 1-2 times /month and carrier /dread ops are just as rare and VERY limited in numbers.
I don't see us noticing much.
But a big thankyou to all the people in huge coalitions going into bat for us to preserve us from this hideous cost increase.

WTB Mackinaw

Sad but true. Nulsec has been pretty evenly divided up between the power blocks and this is another change by Devs that will help them maintain the status quo.
That's not to say there isn't a place for smaller alliances in Nul, as long as they don't try to move into 1 of the power blocks space they will be for the most part left alone. Don't make the mistake of trying to get more sov though, you may find 1 of the big guys gets offended and decides to push you back to lowsec. Or worse, invite you to join them (an offer you accept, or go back to lowsec).

Anything larger than a small gang roaming is no longer alliance or corp warfare / Pvp. it is purely coalition level fighting.
1 alliance attacking another is declaring war on a coalition and as the coalitions have all the isk they need, this change will have no affect on them. It will possibly make it easier for them to maintain things just as they are.