Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Bump, because I had a similar idea and thought to check before duplicating.

I wish the skill queuing system could be improved, by allowing more 'short' skills to be queued up.

At my age the longest skill I want to train takes under 11 days. But I might be going away for 14 days... I would like to be able to queue up skills after that, but at the moment I'm restricted to the 24-hr queue.

And I can't understand why only 24 hours? It seems an arbitrary limit, and I just can't understand the logic for this.

Initially it encourages more game play, at least playing every day to update skills, and play around in the universe to learn the game. Fine, I was doing that anyway.

I suppose having a longer timeframe could encourage a passive approach to gameplay, i.e. set up your skills for the next 30 days, go away again, enjoy RL...

And I can understand that an experienced player training a new ALT or starting a new account would be able to utilise this kind of long-term skill planning more than a new player, but:

IRL players will need to be away from home, on business trips or holidays, unable or unwilling to access EVE and train the skills they want. When I go away I won't train the refining skills I want for immediate use, but instead will train something like Astrogeology V because it will take longer and is a more efficient use of the training time I can access.

Also new players could be given a level playing field by allowing them to train skills in an pre-defined skills path by choosing to 'train all skills' in their next ship mastery level? This already exists to give new players an idea about support skills, why not make it a more active feature?

I'd like to see a 30-day skill training queue to go with my 30-day subscription. What's the downside? I paid for that subscription with my money, why restrict my ability to do what I want to do with my character when I'm not logged on?

Despite the fact that you've paid CCP for your 30days, they do still want you to log in and play the game.

You should really have experienced being a new player (lots and lots of short skills to train) before the skill queue. Setting 3am alarm to wakeup and change skills.... not fun,

the 24h is still working as intended and IMHO does what it needs to do. No need for extending the queue.


As for adding skill injection into the queue.... interesting idea. But I think the benefits would really outweigh the time to develop this.

Thanks, I appreciate that, especially the history. The 24-hr queue is obviously better than nothing, but there is still no reason not to make it even longer. Where's the downside?

Just because something that works now works better than what came before is not a reason to not make it even better.

If I want to spend my money just training a character and not playing the game, then that was my choice to make. I actually want to play though... And I understand that people do train characters for specific roles, like flying Titans, to sell in-game, and they would benefit from this. But so would I as a new player who is actively playing the game and simply wants to get full value for money.

My problem is that while absent in real life I'm potentially paying for something I can't use, because I won't be able to log-in to update the skill queue. I can't suspend my subscription for the days I'll be away (thus pausing my skill training), which I could do with my car insurance... Okay, that wouldn't be 'free' but it might be rational if my circumstances warranted.

@Lephia DeGrande, as a new player I hardly have a skill 'plan'. I just train skills to support the activities I want to do today, and unfortunately made the mistake of splitting my training between two characters doing different things. They each have 1.8m skill points, so it's a bit messy. And yes, my longest skill training time will be 10D 20H 10M and 45S (Astrogeology IV, not V, apologies). But then I'm not planning to be away for another two weeks, so I could do IV and then train V while I'm away. My training queue is always full :D

Ok, ignore my idea as a new player complaining about stuff little stuff which was so much worse back in the day... :)

But seriously, what's the downside to having a longer queue? Or the ability to auto-inject skills when you have the skill books and have finished training the pre-requisite? If there are clear advantages and no dis-advantages then why not implement the feature?

Just let people inject every skillbook in the game whenever they want, but don't let them train the skill past 0 if they don't have the prerequisites. Problem solved.

What? It has nothing to do with skillbooks. It will only remove hassle with them. You would still need them, you would still need to acquire them somewhere. And you would still need to pay for them. Only you could inject it right away and not in future point of time.

There is one problem with this. One of my alts has mining barge trained but does not have mining frigate due to changes in prereqs. That alt could no longer train mining barge if that change was made

I'd like to see mobile skill management...

id say, if you have a skill ready to inject at the end of a pre req skill as the example in the op

once you select to have the skill inject on ending of the pre req, the skill queue is locked until the injected skill has started training

Just allow adding not-injected skills to queue and auto-inject them (from cargo or personal hangar) whenever they're started. This would allow setting up skill queue exactly as wanted (no more 3am login just to inject skill and don't waste several hours for something not needed now - especially when skilling an alt) and still won't break all skillbook-related mechanics, including risk of keeping skillbook with you. if skill is not present at the time of training start - just remove it from queue. Also, it simplifies training UI - you don't have to search your hangar for skillbook and inject it, just add to queue and it'll be auto-injected.