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Gecko ? Super drones?
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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#61 - 2014-05-02 17:46:31 UTC
Hopefully this drone won't try and sell me ship insurance.

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Drone 16
Holy Horde
#62 - 2014-05-02 17:59:22 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Elisk Skyforge wrote:
So I just found this in heavy drones category! looks like a super drone with a 50mbit bandwidth requirement...Just search "Gecko" in the market...What do you guys think it is ?

screenie: http://i.imgur.com/fNT9nJD.jpg


It's not a combat drone, it's an advertising drone. You launch it and it tells your enemies about how they can save 15% on their car insurance in 15 minutes. Thus distracted by their greed, they won't notice when you warp off.


Lmao!!!!! Good one

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#63 - 2014-05-02 18:02:56 UTC
Free Geckos for everyone on Tuesday (EVE's birthday!) 3 per subscribed account.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#64 - 2014-05-02 22:36:28 UTC
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:
Just announce the highsec carrier already with subsystem which make it either booster \ combat \ mining ship mod and call it T3 bs.

Then after I'll switch my pants due to excitement I'll get 3.

Pathetic.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Rayzilla Zaraki
Yin Jian Enterprises
#65 - 2014-05-02 22:51:23 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Free Geckos for everyone on Tuesday (EVE's birthday!) 3 per subscribed account.


Nuts. Beat me to it.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#66 - 2014-05-02 23:05:20 UTC
Gecko drone

Duration: 15min

Cost of car insurance: -15%

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
#67 - 2014-05-02 23:28:48 UTC
As long as this doesn't result in new drone based skills to train for. I don't mind new I/M or P/W skills since I alternate between these two remaps every year, but the last time I had a drone map was before the salvage drone skill was introduced when I maxed out most of the drone skills. If there are new drone skills I hope they are just splitting pre-existing drone skills like they did for destroyers/battle cruisers or what has already been pitched for future drone skills.
MonkeyMagic Thiesant
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#68 - 2014-05-03 00:03:34 UTC  |  Edited by: MonkeyMagic Thiesant
OK, so according to in-game stats they're just short of 3x the dps of an ogre2, more than double the mwd speed, 33% higher orbit velocity, +50% the tracking, and a load more ehp.

Are they not getting included in some skill bonus (heavy?) to level out things a bit?
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#69 - 2014-05-03 12:51:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Owen Levanth
MonkeyMagic Thiesant wrote:
OK, so according to in-game stats they're just short of 3x the dps of an ogre2, more than double the mwd speed, 33% higher orbit velocity, +50% the tracking, and a load more ehp.

Are they not getting included in some skill bonus (heavy?) to level out things a bit?


They have double the size and bandwidth requirements then normal heavy drones. Isn't that enough? Since there are no subcaps with a bandwidth of 150, no ship below subcap can field more then 1-2 of them.

And caps with Geckos will be a hilarious target for bombing runs. (Considering Geckos will stay expensive faction drones, even if we suddenly can find Gecko BPCs somewhere in Gurista-space. If we can't, every drone lost will drive the price up since there is no replacement. Which makes a mass-deployment like with sentries a really bad idea.)
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#70 - 2014-05-03 15:15:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Hasikan Miallok
stoicfaux wrote:



Also, since pretty much every "ship" type game is based on WWII ship classes, CCP has probably realized that a carrier sub-cap ship available to the masses (err pubbies) would be a hit.



The concept you are after is the WWII CVE escort carriers. The US made about 120 of the things and they were tiny, 500 feet long and only displacing 8000 tons.

The game does not entirely follow WWII ship classes. For example a WWII Battlecruiser was actually the size of a Battleship with Battleship guns but had less armor to allow more speed and cruising range.


Though to be trueful EVE is based more on rubber ducks in a bathtub then WWII naval ships.
MonkeyMagic Thiesant
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#71 - 2014-05-03 15:53:52 UTC  |  Edited by: MonkeyMagic Thiesant
Owen Levanth wrote:
They have double the size and bandwidth requirements then normal heavy drones. Isn't that enough? Since there are no subcaps with a bandwidth of 150, no ship below subcap can field more then 1-2 of them.


Well, if you take a 125 bandwidth ship, it could field two geckos and an ogre2, that's +34% more dps than five ogre2s. For ships with 50 or 100 bandwidth, eg rattlesnake or stratios, it's a straight +42% dps buff. Then you consider +50% tracking, it'll apply that dps to smaller targets vastly better. Double the speed and more ehp also effectively adds applied damage, by virtue of less travel time and more survivability.


None of this makes much sense, which makes me wonder what I'm missing.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#72 - 2014-05-03 15:58:21 UTC
MonkeyMagic Thiesant wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:
They have double the size and bandwidth requirements then normal heavy drones. Isn't that enough? Since there are no subcaps with a bandwidth of 150, no ship below subcap can field more then 1-2 of them.


Well, if you take a 125 bandwidth ship, it could field two geckos and an ogre2, that's +34% more dps than five ogre2s. For ships with 50 or 100 bandwidth, eg rattlesnake or stratios, it's a straight +42% dps buff. Then you consider +50% tracking, it'll apply that dps to smaller targets vastly better. Double the speed and more ehp also effectively adds applied damage, by virtue of less travel time and more survivability.


None of this makes much sense, which makes me wonder what I'm missing.


The thing is probably meant as a fighter repacement for carriers and supers.
Beofryn Sedorak
#73 - 2014-05-03 15:59:39 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
MonkeyMagic Thiesant wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:
They have double the size and bandwidth requirements then normal heavy drones. Isn't that enough? Since there are no subcaps with a bandwidth of 150, no ship below subcap can field more then 1-2 of them.


Well, if you take a 125 bandwidth ship, it could field two geckos and an ogre2, that's +34% more dps than five ogre2s. For ships with 50 or 100 bandwidth, eg rattlesnake or stratios, it's a straight +42% dps buff. Then you consider +50% tracking, it'll apply that dps to smaller targets vastly better. Double the speed and more ehp also effectively adds applied damage, by virtue of less travel time and more survivability.


None of this makes much sense, which makes me wonder what I'm missing.


The thing is probably meant as a fighter repacement for carriers and supers.


Not to mention a move to encourage fewer drones on the field which directly translates to better server performance.
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2014-05-03 16:00:42 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
MonkeyMagic Thiesant wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:
They have double the size and bandwidth requirements then normal heavy drones. Isn't that enough? Since there are no subcaps with a bandwidth of 150, no ship below subcap can field more then 1-2 of them.


Well, if you take a 125 bandwidth ship, it could field two geckos and an ogre2, that's +34% more dps than five ogre2s. For ships with 50 or 100 bandwidth, eg rattlesnake or stratios, it's a straight +42% dps buff. Then you consider +50% tracking, it'll apply that dps to smaller targets vastly better. Double the speed and more ehp also effectively adds applied damage, by virtue of less travel time and more survivability.


None of this makes much sense, which makes me wonder what I'm missing.


The thing is probably meant as a fighter repacement for carriers and supers.


Its just a birthday Promo, it ties into EVE Valkyrie.

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Beofryn Sedorak
#75 - 2014-05-03 16:03:49 UTC
KuroVolt wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
MonkeyMagic Thiesant wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:
They have double the size and bandwidth requirements then normal heavy drones. Isn't that enough? Since there are no subcaps with a bandwidth of 150, no ship below subcap can field more then 1-2 of them.


Well, if you take a 125 bandwidth ship, it could field two geckos and an ogre2, that's +34% more dps than five ogre2s. For ships with 50 or 100 bandwidth, eg rattlesnake or stratios, it's a straight +42% dps buff. Then you consider +50% tracking, it'll apply that dps to smaller targets vastly better. Double the speed and more ehp also effectively adds applied damage, by virtue of less travel time and more survivability.


None of this makes much sense, which makes me wonder what I'm missing.


The thing is probably meant as a fighter repacement for carriers and supers.


Its just a birthday Promo, it ties into EVE Valkyrie.


They also said that there will be some goal(s) for us to work towards to unlock more. No clue if that means we might be able to unlock a way to produce them or continue to acquire them. I for one really hope this type of drone becomes a normal thing. they're very cool.
MonkeyMagic Thiesant
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#76 - 2014-05-03 16:05:30 UTC
I guess no racial drone specialisation bonus applies (2% per level). Assuming lev4 of that, the figures above should be +25% dps on a 125mbit ship, and +32% on a 50/100.

Guessing: they're not going to apply heavy drone skill damage bonus to it (+5% per level). It'd still be better than ogre2s, but not absurdly so.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#77 - 2014-05-03 17:12:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Its not a drone lore wise, but a fighter. Remember what they said at fanfest about Valkyrie and the pirate factions?

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Crazy KSK
Tsunami Cartel
#78 - 2014-05-04 17:59:05 UTC
its the equivalent of an augmented praetor only on the new rattlesnake since using 5 augmented praetors on every other ship gives you more dps
770 on the rattler
754 on an ishtar with a 1x augmented praetor 2x Gecko
3xDDA for both

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Not A Target
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#79 - 2014-05-05 03:34:05 UTC
New BS released looking like a Mini carrier + Mini Fighter drone... Hmmmmm I wonder
Doreen Kaundur
#80 - 2014-05-05 04:24:30 UTC
Does it have an australian accent and sell insurance?

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