EVE General Discussion

But that is not accleration either. That is just extremely efficient. Accleration, as it has to do with the afformentioned EULA quote, would mean that the third party software would actually have to shorten module time etc. Accelearation is a metric of increased speed. Bots do not do anything faster do they? THey just do it with little to no wasted time.

So is not this discussion really pointless as efficiency and acceleration are two different metrics?

Measure the amount of time it takes to press a key.
To press several different keys in succession.
To move the mouse.
To click a button.
To move the mouse elsewhere.

Now extrapolate up to an hour of playing.

Bots do not waste time with this = Acceleration.
Bots do not require any user input = Automatation. Automatation? Is that a word?

Both are things that do not happen per pilot while multiboxing.

That's what's it about.

I think your first mistake was operating under the assumption that eve is meant to be fair.

I don't have much experience of ISBoxers in ice belts but at present ISboxers in asteroid belts can be controlled or removed fairly easily.
They will often be in player run corps so wardec's can be deployed to disrupt them.
Whether they are in player or NPC corps they can be suicide ganked.
Once they have been suicide ganked they will downsize to Procurers.
At this point using Procurers they will invariably drop jetcans of ore everywhere.
Use a Miasmos to empty 2+ jetcans at once. This can bring in quite a bit of ISK plus it disrupts them further.
Fit out a T1 cruiser with guns, MWD, stasis & warp disrupters. Go and bump them out of range.
If they attack you then you can attack them legally.

Of course there are going to be problems after the summer update as CCP is going to enable miners to defend themselves further against bumping and can theft with increased subwarp speed and increased drone damage. Not sure why CCP are doing this. I guess James 315 et al are damaging their business model.

Actually, it is fair. We all play by the same rules. The fact they are arther permissive compared to other games does not mean they are unfair.

Frankly CCP's policy on Isboxer is a matter of practicality. Trying to ban isboxer from the game would require a great deal of developer effort (time/money taken away from game content/fixes). Even then it'll be tough on the GMs because everything people do in isboxer can be done with hardware. So are you going to ban hardware repeaters too? How are you going to detect that a hardware based repeater system is being used? I can easily run +10 characters at a time especially when mining. How am I supposed to prove I'm not using isboxer?

Making isboxer illegal for eve usage would just create a LOT of trouble for the developers and GMs. It's not worth their time or effort considering how few people actually use ISboxer in the obnoxious manner you describe.

Actually, that interpretation depends entirely on whether CCP employees are doing it, or not.

I am with Seven, where and when is all we need to know!

Solecist, your portrait is decent now. You can stop changing it.

And what do you tell all the high school/college students that play, and already use whatever income they have for school/limited social lives? Not everyone that plays eve is able to afford $15/mo.