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Division 13 9,284
Dani Dusette Division 13 Likes received: 9,284	#41 - 2014-05-02 12:21:20 UTC 2 Candi LeMew wrote: Come at us bro. I'mma overheating my Skiff! Can I bring a Drake? dαní ㅤㅤ ㅤ σиlу ιи dαякиєѕѕ cαи уσυ ѕєє тнє ѕтαяѕ ISD Ezwal: "Might I inform you that I am as real as it gets?"

Kaarous Aldurald

Black Hydra Consortium.

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#42 - 2014-05-02 12:21:34 UTC

Solecist Project wrote:

Tippia wrote:

Solecist Project wrote:

Redundant post is redundant.

Why are you trolling?

Because I have educational illustrations, of course.

So you admit you're trolling? :D

Btw... most sentences you write start pretty much the same way.
... except that; You do realize...;

I'm mobile now so going through your post history is too much hassle right now.

The fun part is that I am absolutely sure that you know that
these two examples above come accross as aggressive and knowitall-ish...

Right?

It's Tippia, he's earned it.

Oh! Oh! Do me next!

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Tippia

Sunshine and Lollipops

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#43 - 2014-05-02 12:23:46 UTC | Edited by: Tippia

Solecist Project wrote:

Btw... most sentences you write start pretty much the same way.
... except that; You do realize...;

I'm mobile now so going through your post history is too much hassle right now.

The fun part is that I am absolutely sure that you know that
these two examples above come accross as aggressive and knowitall-ish...

Right?

Sure. If people are going to make aggressively stupid or uninformed claims, I feel no compunction about correcting them in a similar manner — in particular if I know that they know (or should know) better. Presenting it as exceptions (that just so happen to completely scuttle the point they're making) often also has this nice tendency to trip people up by reversing the position they've taken: it implicitly suggests that their complaint is an instance of a larger pattern and that the one example they picked turned out to be wrong… how silly of them. On the one hand, that's very mean and nasty but on the other hand, it also provides an incentive to go back and look at that bigger picture. Blink

Solecist Project

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#44 - 2014-05-02 12:24:27 UTC

Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

Solecist Project wrote:

Tippia wrote:

Solecist Project wrote:

Redundant post is redundant.

Why are you trolling?

Because I have educational illustrations, of course.

It's Tippia, he's earned it.

Oh! Oh! Do me next!

No!
I'm into females only!
See above posters! :p

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

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Amber Patoria Division 13 Likes received: 5,819	#45 - 2014-05-02 12:31:08 UTC 2 Dani Dusette wrote: Candi LeMew wrote: Come at us bro. I'mma overheating my Skiff! Can I bring a Drake? Negative. No T1 **** on this fleet thanks. We can afford better. We are multiboxer. Candi LeMew > It doesn't have to make sense. It's just the way it is. Johnny cruz > You end up getting off today Lotor? loĸι

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Shelby Dusette Division 13 Likes received: 15,194	#46 - 2014-05-02 12:32:04 UTC 2 Amber Patoria wrote: Dani Dusette wrote: Candi LeMew wrote: Come at us bro. I'mma overheating my Skiff! Can I bring a Drake? Negative. No T1 **** on this fleet thanks. We can afford better. We are multiboxer. But .. but we gonna need bait! ѕнєℓву ㅤ ѕσ мσιѕт ♥ ѕυcн вяανє ♥ мany lєgισи ♥ wow

Division 13 58,089
Erica Dusette Division 13 Likes received: 58,089	#47 - 2014-05-02 12:35:26 UTC 3 Kids today. Anyway, I don't use iSboxer. Real pirates alt+tab. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate ツ Full-Time Supermodel ▷ worмнole dιary + cнaracтer вιoѕ ▷ вσss

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Talia Prime Imperial Militia Likes received: 35	#48 - 2014-05-02 12:36:20 UTC Confirming Tippia is not a troll

Solecist Project

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#49 - 2014-05-02 12:39:17 UTC

Tippia wrote:

Solecist Project wrote:

Sure. If people are going to make aggressively stupid or uninformed claims, I feel no compunction about correcting them in a similar manner — in particular if I know that they know (or should know) better. Presenting it as exceptions (that just so happen to completely scuttle the point they're making) often also has this nice tendency to trip people up by reversing the position they've taken: it implicitly suggests that their complaint as an instance of a larger pattern and that the one example they picked turned out to be wrong. On the one hand, that's very mean and nasty but on the other hand, it also provides an incentive to go back and look at that bigger picture.

Wow, you wrote a (short) Wall of Text.

Quoting for History:
Tippia admits that she's trolling people to make them go mad,
so they keep argueing.

While I agree with the idea of giving incentive,
history shows that this doesn't work in the utter most cases.

And you know that too. :D

I remember ping pong posts filling pages after pages of you argueing with people,
but besides possible good intentions,
all you seem to do is adding fuel to the fire.

The smart part is that you keep being informative,
to maks sure your actually aggressive posts don't get moderated.

So... why intentionally create a negative atmosphere?

Doomheim 192
Solecist Project's Alt Doomheim Likes received: 192	#50 - 2014-05-02 12:40:37 UTC Amber Patoria wrote: Dani Dusette wrote: Candi LeMew wrote: Come at us bro. I'mma overheating my Skiff! Can I bring a Drake? Negative. No T1 **** on this fleet thanks. We can afford better. We are multiboxer. Woah! My future ex wife!

Shadow Legions. SONS of BANE 1,764
Seven Koskanaiken Shadow Legions. SONS of BANE Likes received: 1,764	#51 - 2014-05-02 12:42:18 UTC 2 Sooo, this guy mines where?

Clarity Incorporated 1,370
Tigra LeMorte Clarity Incorporated Likes received: 1,370	#52 - 2014-05-02 12:52:33 UTC 1 Solecist Project's Alt wrote: Woah! My future ex wife! You only want us for our superior mining revenue. You'll take the rocks, get everyone pregnant, then bail.

Slade Trillgon

Brutor Force Federated

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#53 - 2014-05-02 12:53:24 UTC | Edited by: Slade Trillgon

Mallak Azaria wrote:

Evelyn Meiyi wrote:

Actually...under a strict reading of the EULA, a multiboxing program is 'third-party' software that '[facilitates] acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play.

How does an account used by a multiboxer obtain stuff at an accelerated rate over an account not used by a multiboxer?

If you multibox w/o IsBoxer or had 40+ unique players on the on the field opperating toward the same goal there would be inefficiences due to bad timing alt/tabbing and/or the uncontrollable lives of 40+ plus people wich would make the operation significantly less efficient. So yes, IsBoxer makes 1 person much more efficient as there is significantly less 'lag' between commands on ISBoxed accounts than there is potential for in a non-IsBoxed player or group.

Yes, 40+ IsBoxed accounts do nothing when the player leaves the keyboard while a real group of 40+ unique pilots could then make up for some of the disparity, so I do not have a problem with players using the program at all, but lets not color the truth too much.

Nighthawk Exploration 1,130
TwistedFairytale Nighthawk Exploration Likes received: 1,130	#54 - 2014-05-02 12:54:14 UTC 1 Tigra LeMorte wrote: Solecist Project's Alt wrote: Woah! My future ex wife! You only want us for our superior mining revenue. You'll take the rocks, get everyone pregnant, then bail. And we're not falling for that one again.


Solecist Project's Alt Doomheim Likes received: 192	#55 - 2014-05-02 12:56:05 UTC 1 Tigra LeMorte wrote: Solecist Project's Alt wrote: Woah! My future ex wife! You only want us for our superior mining revenue. You'll take the rocks, get everyone pregnant, then bail. No way! My wife, my kids, my responsibility! Besides, there's no better family than a family that enjoys blowing up stuff together! Too many to pick one from...

LHA Tarawa

Pator Tech School

Minmatar Republic

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#56 - 2014-05-02 12:59:45 UTC

Sibius Aidon wrote:

I've seen them, my corpmates have seen them, and I'm sure others have as well, but I can't help but notice these guys going around with 41 accounts with some sort of macro program to control all of them at once. They hit up all the ice belts, and suck it dry before anyone else could get a fair share. This type of playing is unfair, and at the very least anyone with this many accounts should be required to be in a corporation, so everyone that wants to pod that guy a few times over for hogging all the ice can wardec him over and over again legally. That, or I guess the bulk of EVE's population are these guys with 41 accounts going at the same time and regulating them means EVE goes bye-bye. either way, it's a little unfair.

At the very least make it so that a given player cannot have more than 5 accounts in a given system at the same time.

Gank opportunity. Everyone in your corp make a gank alt with a day of destroyer skill training. Show the multi-botter your unhappiness.

Bump ships. Fast, heavy, bump his multi accounts 50K from nearest rock.

Innovate, adapt, overome.

Solecist Project's Alt

Doomheim

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#57 - 2014-05-02 13:02:19 UTC

Slade Trillgon wrote:

Mallak Azaria wrote:

Evelyn Meiyi wrote:

How does an account used by a multiboxer obtain stuff at an accelerated rate over an account not used by a multiboxer?

If you multibox w/o IsBoxer or had 40+ unique players on the on the field opperating toward the same goal there would be inefficiences due to bad timing alt/tabbing and/or the uncontrollable lives of 40+ plus people wich would make the operation significantly less efficient. So yes, IsBoxer makes 1 person much more efficient as there is significantly less 'lag' between commands on ISBoxed accounts than there is potential for in a non-IsBoxed player or group.

Yes, a 40+ account IsBoxed account does nothing when the players leaves the keyboard while a real group of 40+ unique pilots could then make up for some of the disparity, so I do not have a problem with players using the program at all, but lets not color the truth too much.

CCP disagrees with you.
Probably because you're wrong and your opinion lacks any base.

In game and seen b CCPas such,
every pilot is seen as individual.
It's players who connect pilots with people,
ignoring that the reality of the game does not care about this.

There is no acceleration for any pilot in any isboxing fleet.
Bots otoh do not waste time to create input,
compared to users who do.

Tippia

Sunshine and Lollipops

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#58 - 2014-05-02 13:06:59 UTC | Edited by: Tippia

Solecist Project wrote:

I remember ping pong posts filling pages after pages of you argueing with people, but besides possible good intentions, all you seem to do is adding fuel to the fire.

Are you doubting the cleansing fire? Heathen!

Slade Trillgon wrote:

An ISBoxed group of characters will also incur pretty significant inefficiencies since they can't individually adapt to do what's optimal from their position. They all have to do the same thing to the same thing, rather than have individual tasks that work towards a greater whole. Put another way, if 40+ characters are sucking from the same rock, how much of that time is actually spent sucking on air compared to if they each could pick their own and adjust their cycles to match the contents of those individual rocks?

Oh, and just because they can be more (or less) efficient doesn't mean anything happens at an accelerated rate.


Solecist Project Likes received: 33,643	#59 - 2014-05-02 13:10:02 UTC You ignored my queation about your intentional creation of a negative atmosphere... :p That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

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Royce Kado Caldari Provisions Caldari State Likes received: 15	#60 - 2014-05-02 13:17:46 UTC Nice going OP, you waited to post this during fanfest so all the mods would be drunk or otherwise occupied so you could wave your silly little flag and boost your likes before they lock it. well played, but ** posting is still ** posting. IB4L