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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2014-05-01 21:03:48 UTC
what everybody here take wrong is: game doesn't need to be "copy of Eve Online with little changes" to steal people.
In reality game only needs to keep players interested long-term.

For example: some time ago i was playing Fallout 3 for a long time. Just because the game kept me interested.
Before it was "18 wheels".

If you look at RL it is not even a game. But it makes you leave Eve.

So any discussions about features and stuff say nothing about real competition between games.

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Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#62 - 2014-05-01 21:08:17 UTC
EVE will be ok. EVE will have 11+ years of player self-investment depth richness in it by the time starcitizen comes out of beta. Starcitizen seems like it has potential - which is why I'm set up to play it's alpha / beta - but I highly doubt it and other upcoming space games will supplant EVE. Especially if CCP stops mucking about with attempting other games and truly...um...laser focuses on EVE itself. EVE is truly unique in the MMO world and won't be dying anytime soon, imo.

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Verlyn
Black Rabbits
Black Rabbit.
#63 - 2014-05-01 21:36:35 UTC
PLEX prices will continue rising, until CCP will eventually have to find a way against it, or game will die.

Simple. Have fun while it lasts.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#64 - 2014-05-01 21:54:54 UTC
Verlyn wrote:
PLEX prices will continue rising, until CCP will eventually have to find a way against it, or game will die.

Simple. Have fun while it lasts.



what are you smoking? plex price != game death. CCP needs to do nothing about plex prices. sheesh

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#65 - 2014-05-02 09:16:46 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
what everybody here take wrong is: game doesn't need to be "copy of Eve Online with little changes" to steal people.
In reality game only needs to keep players interested long-term.

For example: some time ago i was playing Fallout 3 for a long time. Just because the game kept me interested.
Before it was "18 wheels".

If you look at RL it is not even a game. But it makes you leave Eve.

So any discussions about features and stuff say nothing about real competition between games.


exactly, a spacegame thats different and good, will get EVE players. Atm EVE hasnt given players much to scream of joy. Except the useless New painting on ships.... cant understand why they implemented that instead of doing something players really wants... tho Paint was wanted by some players....
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#66 - 2014-05-02 09:29:08 UTC
Well, they are going to buff mining barges again. If that is not response to community screaming I have no idea what is.

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Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#67 - 2014-05-02 09:39:30 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Well, they are going to buff mining barges again. If that is not response to community screaming I have no idea what is.



Im not sure what they can do to barges, cuz mining will always be borring ;p
Solecist Project
#68 - 2014-05-02 09:45:42 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Well, they are going to buff mining barges again. If that is not response to community screaming I have no idea what is.



Im not sure what they can do to barges, cuz mining will always be borring ;p
Skiff.

Battleship like tank.
Drone damage bonus.

It's full of win!

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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#69 - 2014-05-02 09:47:42 UTC
Mining barge with BS tank and drone damage bonus. If you can't see possibilities in it I'm afraid you are missing the whole point of Eve being a sandbox.

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Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#70 - 2014-05-02 09:57:57 UTC
Skif dont need more tanking, mack and hulk, could use some more tank, but its possible With current tank to outtank a 6 catalyst fleet... With some fiddling
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#71 - 2014-05-02 10:07:55 UTC
Because of course mining is done only in hisec where catalyst cannot shoot twice

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Erin Crawford
#72 - 2014-05-02 10:12:28 UTC
Knowledge is knowing the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad.
Or, more simply put: apples and oranges.
Both games are space games, but both are very different to each other.

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Erin Crawford
#73 - 2014-05-02 10:18:05 UTC
Erin Crawford wrote:
Knowledge is knowing the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad.
Or, more simply put: apples and oranges.
Both games are space games, but both are very different to each other.


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Entertainment is the biggest factor. If it interests and entertains you chances are you will play it, if not then not - doesn't matter what one games has over the other. SC can have all the bells and whistles but if I don't enjoy it as much as EVE then i probably won't play it and the inverse is true also.

But of course I'll be even happier if both can deliver! Blink

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Veld San
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2014-05-02 10:31:41 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
The age of Space games has its Renaissance now and many New very interesting games are released, announced or soon to be released. As some Developers has said, now the techonology can make Our visions and dreams come thru.

How will this affect the future of EVE and how will EVE improve the game to counter the flight of EVE players to the New games?


Looking back through the years and the multitude of MMORPGs I have played, as well as spending some time within and around the gaming industry, I have a fairly neutral perspective on it.

Eve launched in 2003 and Was in development for a long time, it shares a lot of outdated ideas and core mechanics which originated from Ultima Online and the original Everquest, incidentally, everquest is still going, 15+ years, so I suppose it is a success, though how much of a success and from what angle and most importantly, how big of a success it could have been but isn't, well those are whole other stories.

Eve seems to be becoming just a tad slightly better then everquest due to its space MMORPG niche. I am unaware of any games currently in production or even planning stages that are also Space type MMORPGs with such detailed and in debth universe. There is Star Citizen, but to my understanding Star Citizen is not a true MMORPG, its a game with some multiplayer and some MMO elements, but not an MMORPG. So it will not take many people away from Eve.

Going onward, once another full scale space , or even sci-fy with space MMORPG comes out, thats when Eve will take a giant hit.

There are 3 things that will happen once that comes to pass.

1. Unlikely: CCP will rework the very core mechanics of the game, making it less hard core and open to much wider audiences, this is unlikely, I think these guys actually tried somewhat, but are continuously failing here and just don't get it. They need to move away from some of the original premisses of this game and re-launch, re-market. Yes, many of the hardcore players will leave, they will be replaces by many more that will discover this game, rest of us will stay.

2: Unlikely CCP will keep this game exactly "as is" catering to current players and funding its next installment of Eve Online which will include the above mentioned audiences. Some people will move, CCP will gain many new players, the 2 will co-exist much like EQ and EQ2.

3. Most Likely: Eve will fade to obscurity as the devs are too stubborn to open up to new ideas, modernize the game and redesign it. My hope is that this doesn't come to pass, but am just not holding my breath.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#75 - 2014-05-02 10:37:31 UTC
Thank god devs are too stubborn to change Eve into anything else than ruthless MMO where destruction is called consumption and freedom of choice has value.

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Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#76 - 2014-05-02 11:18:00 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Thank god devs are too stubborn to change Eve into anything else than ruthless MMO where destruction is called consumption and freedom of choice has value.




yes thank god devs for never change and refuse Development of EVE
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#77 - 2014-05-02 11:28:35 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Thank god devs are too stubborn to change Eve into anything else than ruthless MMO where destruction is called consumption and freedom of choice has value.




yes thank god devs for never change and refuse Development of EVE

Well, guess you need to read up on the dev blogs. All the way from 2003.

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Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#78 - 2014-05-02 11:48:42 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Thank god devs are too stubborn to change Eve into anything else than ruthless MMO where destruction is called consumption and freedom of choice has value.




yes thank god devs for never change and refuse Development of EVE

Well, guess you need to read up on the dev blogs. All the way from 2003.


Actually i have, its a endles list of updates and patches... well there was the time, many years ago, they inplemented wormspace... and caps... again many years ago. So i urge u to read thru the hole list ;)
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#79 - 2014-05-02 11:48:58 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Thank god devs are too stubborn to change Eve into anything else than ruthless MMO where destruction is called consumption and freedom of choice has value.




yes thank god devs for never change and refuse Development of EVE


You seem to confuse development with putting more make up.

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#80 - 2014-05-02 11:52:05 UTC
'Endless list of updates and patches are not development.

More at 11'

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