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[Kronos] Pirate Faction Battleships

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#1721 - 2014-05-02 01:25:01 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Problem with 275% bonused medium drones on a rattlesnake is it has 50mb bandwidth and you would be able to deploy five of the things.

A pair of Geckos would be a start (with 100mbit bandwidth). Screw the sentries.

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Joe Boirele
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1722 - 2014-05-02 01:26:16 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Problem with 275% bonused medium drones on a rattlesnake is it has 50mb bandwidth and you would be able to deploy five of the things.

A pair of Geckos would be a start (with 100mbit bandwidth). Screw the sentries.


I would like to get better heavy bonuses and leave the sentries behind.

Enemies are just friends who stab you in the front.

"We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight!"
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#1723 - 2014-05-02 01:36:04 UTC
Joe Boirele wrote:
I would like to get better heavy bonuses and leave the sentries behind.

Absolutely! Give them more of an optimal range and orbit distance and now we're talking...

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stoicfaux
#1724 - 2014-05-02 01:48:06 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Joe Boirele wrote:
I would like to get better heavy bonuses and leave the sentries behind.

Absolutely! Give them more of an optimal range and orbit distance and now we're talking...

It might be interesting if heavy web drones received also received drone bonuses, e.g. a 50% drone bonus would mean 20% * 1.5 = 30% webs. Heaven help you with against a 275% bonused heavy drone. 20% * 3.75 = 75% web.

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#1725 - 2014-05-02 01:51:21 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
It might be interesting if heavy web drones received also received drone bonuses, e.g. a 50% drone bonus would mean 20% * 1.5 = 30% webs. Heaven help you with against a 275% bonused heavy drone. 20% * 3.75 = 75% web

Do web drones still work? They almost need to get rid of the stacking penalties on ewar drones...

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Priestess Lin
Darkfall Corp
#1726 - 2014-05-02 02:34:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Priestess Lin
Silvetica Dian wrote:
Priestess Lin wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Priestess Lin wrote:

that isn't for you to decide, kiddo.


You are correct. But the person who does get to decide, already has.




Educate yourself on the concept of a "feedback thread" and try again. These changes aren't set in stone no matter how much you stomp your feet about it.


They pretty much are and have been since the worm thread. The RS is flat out better now and finally will be worth flying.
Before now it was a overtanked low dps POS. now it will be an epic medium range brawler.
Also he ain't the one doing the feet stomping and throwing his toys out of the pram.


funny you had to get on an alt to agree with yourself Lol

sorry kiddo. the Rattlesnake is clearly worse than it was before with the loss of so much of its functionality. This is the thead where we point out the devs mistakes and give feedback on that issue. To think things are set in stone at this point is completely moronic.

When discussing weaknesses of heavy drones vs fast frigates: baltec1- " A thanatos with a flight of geckos killed a bomber gang while AFK. So yea, they track frigates just fine." https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4678049#post4678049
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#1727 - 2014-05-02 02:54:27 UTC
Priestess Lin wrote:
Silvetica Dian wrote:
Priestess Lin wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Priestess Lin wrote:

that isn't for you to decide, kiddo.


You are correct. But the person who does get to decide, already has.




Educate yourself on the concept of a "feedback thread" and try again. These changes aren't set in stone no matter how much you stomp your feet about it.


They pretty much are and have been since the worm thread. The RS is flat out better now and finally will be worth flying.
Before now it was a overtanked low dps POS. now it will be an epic medium range brawler.
Also he ain't the one doing the feet stomping and throwing his toys out of the pram.


funny you had to get on an alt to agree with yourself Lol

sorry kiddo. the Rattlesnake is clearly worse than it was before with the loss of so much of its functionality. This is the thead where we point out the devs mistakes and give feedback on that issue. To think things are set in stone at this point is completely moronic.


He's not me. And it's frankly pathetic that you resort to saying things like that to try and diminish legitimate opposition. He's obviously British, whilst I proudly bear the title of colonial heathen.

The super drone concept was set in stone the moment they released the Worm. It's not going away, no matter how loud you howl about it.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#1728 - 2014-05-02 02:55:23 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
It might be interesting if heavy web drones received also received drone bonuses, e.g. a 50% drone bonus would mean 20% * 1.5 = 30% webs. Heaven help you with against a 275% bonused heavy drone. 20% * 3.75 = 75% web

Do web drones still work? They almost need to get rid of the stacking penalties on ewar drones...


I think it has been mentioned that ewar drones are getting a full rework some time this year.

Which they need, pretty much all of them but the ECM drones are worthless.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
scorchlikeshiswhiskey
Totally Abstract
O X I D E
#1729 - 2014-05-02 03:19:50 UTC
So, can someone explain the reasoning of why the RS has the largest sig radius and the slowest velocity?
Joe Boirele
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1730 - 2014-05-02 03:28:56 UTC
scorchlikeshiswhiskey wrote:
So, can someone explain the reasoning of why the RS has the largest sig radius and the slowest velocity?


Haven't crunched any numbers, but my guess is that it has the best tank.

Enemies are just friends who stab you in the front.

"We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight!"
Priestess Lin
Darkfall Corp
#1731 - 2014-05-02 08:36:12 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:


The super drone concept was set in stone the moment they released the Worm. It's not going away, no matter how loud you howl about it.


Wrong. What a silly and moronic thing to say. This is a video game and none of these change are set in stone. nomatter how much you stomp around in a hissy-fit, this fact does not change.

it is clear that this drone idea is a stupid one and this thread is exists to let the devs know that before the changes go live.

When discussing weaknesses of heavy drones vs fast frigates: baltec1- " A thanatos with a flight of geckos killed a bomber gang while AFK. So yea, they track frigates just fine." https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4678049#post4678049
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#1732 - 2014-05-02 08:41:28 UTC
Priestess Lin wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:


The super drone concept was set in stone the moment they released the Worm. It's not going away, no matter how loud you howl about it.


Wrong. What a silly and moronic thing to say. This is a video game and none of these change are set in stone. nomatter how much you stomp around in a hissy-fit, this fact does not change.

it is clear that this drone idea is a stupid one and this thread is exists to let the devs know that before the changes go live.


If you want to get Chribba in here, I'll bet you a plex. Super drones are not going away.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#1733 - 2014-05-02 08:45:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Sgt Ocker
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Priestess Lin wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:


The super drone concept was set in stone the moment they released the Worm. It's not going away, no matter how loud you howl about it.


Wrong. What a silly and moronic thing to say. This is a video game and none of these change are set in stone. nomatter how much you stomp around in a hissy-fit, this fact does not change.

it is clear that this drone idea is a stupid one and this thread is exists to let the devs know that before the changes go live.


If you want to get Chribba in here, I'll bet you a plex. Super drones are not going away.

Super Drones are not going away.

Hopefully we will see some changes to the way they work BUT they are here to stay.
..no matter how much people jump up and down and scream..

Personally - Give me 100m bandwidth and 2 Geckos, I'm good to go.

My opinions are mine.

  If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care

It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
Priestess Lin
Darkfall Corp
#1734 - 2014-05-02 08:54:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Priestess Lin
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Priestess Lin wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:


The super drone concept was set in stone the moment they released the Worm. It's not going away, no matter how loud you howl about it.


Wrong. What a silly and moronic thing to say. This is a video game and none of these change are set in stone. nomatter how much you stomp around in a hissy-fit, this fact does not change.

it is clear that this drone idea is a stupid one and this thread is exists to let the devs know that before the changes go live.


If you want to get Chribba in here, I'll bet you a plex. Super drones are not going away.


hilarious how quickly you respond everytime. Lol

sorry kiddo, it is not for you to decide no matter how much you shriek about it. All things in this game are subject to change, especially in feedback threads. Get a clue or get a life.

When discussing weaknesses of heavy drones vs fast frigates: baltec1- " A thanatos with a flight of geckos killed a bomber gang while AFK. So yea, they track frigates just fine." https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4678049#post4678049
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#1735 - 2014-05-02 08:56:58 UTC
Priestess Lin wrote:

hilarious how quickly you respond everytime. Lol

sorry kiddo, it is not for you to decide no matter how much you shriek about it. All things in this game are subject to change, especially in feedback threads. Get a clue or get a life.


I thought not.

If you aren't willing to back up your convictions then just shut your mouth already.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Priestess Lin
Darkfall Corp
#1736 - 2014-05-02 09:01:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Priestess Lin
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Priestess Lin wrote:

hilarious how quickly you respond everytime. Lol

sorry kiddo, it is not for you to decide no matter how much you shriek about it. All things in this game are subject to change, especially in feedback threads. Get a clue or get a life.


I thought not.

If you aren't willing to back up your convictions then just shut your mouth already.


I have backed up my statements much more than you, kiddo. This is a feedback thread. That is fact.

Now quit throwing a tantrum about it. You are wrong. Deal with it. Try to find something more productive to do than living on these forums, its pathetic. Nobody really cares about some irrational no-lifers opinion on everything.

When discussing weaknesses of heavy drones vs fast frigates: baltec1- " A thanatos with a flight of geckos killed a bomber gang while AFK. So yea, they track frigates just fine." https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4678049#post4678049
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#1737 - 2014-05-02 09:02:39 UTC
Priestess Lin wrote:

I have backed up my statements much more than you, kiddo. This is a feedback thread. That is fact.

Now quit throwing a tantrum about it. You are wrong. Deal with it. Try to find something more productive to do than living on these forums. It is pathetic.


You haven't backed up anything. Mostly you just personally attack me because I have stated emphatically that the loss of bonused light drones in exchange for a massive drone hitpoint boost and a highly adaptable missile damage bonus is more than worth the tradeoff.

Because if you bought a pirate battleship to use light drones, then you're doing it so wrong that it can't be explained in words.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#1738 - 2014-05-02 09:02:48 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Priestess Lin wrote:

hilarious how quickly you respond everytime. Lol

sorry kiddo, it is not for you to decide no matter how much you shriek about it. All things in this game are subject to change, especially in feedback threads. Get a clue or get a life.


I thought not.

If you aren't willing to back up your convictions then just shut your mouth already.


But she already did? As we're on an internet forum using words, you can only back your convictions with words, which she used.
Priestess Lin
Darkfall Corp
#1739 - 2014-05-02 09:03:57 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Priestess Lin wrote:

I have backed up my statements much more than you, kiddo. This is a feedback thread. That is fact.

Now quit throwing a tantrum about it. You are wrong. Deal with it. Try to find something more productive to do than living on these forums. It is pathetic.


You haven't backed up anything. Mostly you just personally attack me because I have stated emphatically that the loss of bonused light drones in exchange for a massive drone hitpoint boost and a highly adaptable missile damage bonus is more than worth the tradeoff.

Because if you bought a pirate battleship to use light drones, then you're doing it so wrong that it can't be explained in words.


educate yourself on the definition of a "feedback thread" and try again.

Get a clue or get a life.

When discussing weaknesses of heavy drones vs fast frigates: baltec1- " A thanatos with a flight of geckos killed a bomber gang while AFK. So yea, they track frigates just fine." https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4678049#post4678049
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#1740 - 2014-05-02 09:06:24 UTC
Owen Levanth wrote:

But she already did? As we're on an internet forum using words, you can only back your convictions with words, which she used.



Go ahead and read the rest of this page or so.

I say: "The super drone concept is not going away."

Lin says: "Yes it is because I don't like it and my opinion is so super important!"

I say: "I'll bet you a plex it's not going away"

And Lin spins like a dreidel.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.