Intergalactic Summit

Oh, gosh, I'm so excited! Finally get to see the launch of Whitecap!

Sounds like it'll still be speed-tanked by every ship out there, including capitals. Hope that's not the case.

-Eran

Call me when it can kill a frigate.

So the Caldari have finally decided to build a dreadnought.
It will still be the worst of the available options but at least now, it will be an option, good for you.

And Eran, why would you not?

I did it with a Revelation.
Now I want to do it with a Phoenix.

Suuuuuuuuuuuure.

I will leave you to hold your breath on that one.

That'll be the question, Roseburn. On one hand, its ability to boost shields will be phenomenal. The flip-side is that it certainly won't be able to outdo a Moros in engaging sub-capital craft. So-- it's a question of whether it'll be superior for short-range firefights with other dreadnaughts and carriers, and where the break-even is on having local repair capacity vs. triage support.

Further, there's always lag on adoption of doctrines. It will be months or years before we see this all play out, not unlike how Naglfars are now well-regarded due to their utility against certain fleet compositions after, what, years of Moros dominance?

You keep throwing a number you made up in my face expecting it to create an effect, it will not. You talk about my cognitive capacity while clinging desperately to a one-trick ad-homiem attack based on something you said. Someday I hope you work that out so we can move on to perhaps a newer ad-hominem that is potentially relevant.

And if you want an in-depth analysis you would be better off waiting until the changes are implemented. While a 4% per level shield resistance bonus and non-dependent damage types will give it appeal in fleets it is still going to overshadowed by the sheer versatility and application of the Naglfar and the DPS of the Moros. With a nod to some notable exceptions of disposable shield dreads in armor fleets the vast majority of fleets will be armor still. Momentum is moving toward shield fleets but I believe that is still a year or more off.

Jibing and prejudices aside I expect that they will certainly become more populous than they are now, perhaps more so than the Revelation.

As for the rest, as I said before, feel free to hold your breath on the numbers but I will not. They have made it viable, they have far from made it dominant.

My political affiliations are not relevant to this thread but will say I have nothing but admiration for the State. I served her for two tours of duty in the StPro. When I was in, I executed my duties well and received a commendation for it. I was once called Kirjuun. It was a business agreement of mutual benefit and I retain higher standing to the State than even to the Republic.

Ask those who I served with how I executed my duties. Even Diana Kim flew on my fleets.

This is not mocking, it is tough love.

Listen to me talk about the Jaguar sometime, you will see it is just like I speak of the Phoenix. I want no ship to fall behind and am disappointed with the magnitude of changes. If anything, this may have just set wheels in motion to advance the Revelation. Capsuleer petitions to the Empire and Concord have already started in several data exchange locations.

I wish it was more. And this is why I bemoan it.
Do not let my tone I take with a Rose like Sofia confuse my intentions.

Everyone knows the State's capital fleet has been hurting lately, What all was stolen and why this sudden advancement on a project that the State had mothballed ages ago.

I am of course just speculating baselessly like everyone else is.
We still do not have the math after all, just our own judgement.

Odd that so often my opinion is contentious.
Either way, I did not intend to offend you.

No. In fact it is what is holding me back most, my tone-through-text and speaking perhaps too plainly or not plainly enough.

Ironic is it that I also, nearly three months ago I nearly invested into buying many Phoenix hulls? Missed opportunity now. Revelations as well if the Capsuleer petition succeeds.