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Future of EVE

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Doppleganger
Federated Holdings
#41 - 2014-05-01 16:54:34 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Those who will leave Eve for Space Citizen shouldn't be here in the first place.



I dont think I will leave EVE for SC but if I do I wont feel bad... I got almost 11 yrs in playing this game and that seems like a pretty good run.

Before coming to EVE I played Jumpgate for 2 yrs and I still miss that joystick and newtonian flight model over just point double click and then just bounce off of things. Still like probably 2 yrs before SC comes out (they say next yr but games like to promise things early).

So if I leave EVE and shouldn't have been here in the 1st place its more that EVE is starting to get stale and so much different then it was before alliances of thousands.
Baaldor
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#42 - 2014-05-01 16:55:30 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
The age of Space games has its Renaissance now and many New very interesting games are released, announced or soon to be released. As some Developers has said, now the techonology can make Our visions and dreams come thru.

How will this affect the future of EVE and how will EVE improve the game to counter the flight of EVE players to the New games?



Oh hey look, an EvE is dead/dying troll thread.

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Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#43 - 2014-05-01 17:58:18 UTC
Baaldor wrote:
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
The age of Space games has its Renaissance now and many New very interesting games are released, announced or soon to be released. As some Developers has said, now the techonology can make Our visions and dreams come thru.

How will this affect the future of EVE and how will EVE improve the game to counter the flight of EVE players to the New games?



Oh hey look, an EvE is dead/dying troll thread.

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U might need to report the thread and then make the comment to try get the mods to Close it for that reason...
Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
#44 - 2014-05-01 18:28:19 UTC
Eve's future? Probably the swiss watch of space ship MMOs.
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#45 - 2014-05-01 18:33:31 UTC
Dragon Outlaw wrote:
Eve's future? Probably the swiss watch of space ship MMOs.



made to last, but never change?
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#46 - 2014-05-01 18:35:51 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Those who will leave Eve for Space Citizen shouldn't be here in the first place.


Why ?



Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
#47 - 2014-05-01 18:36:50 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
Dragon Outlaw wrote:
Eve's future? Probably the swiss watch of space ship MMOs.



made to last, but never change?


Something like that
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#48 - 2014-05-01 18:40:24 UTC
New games are the way the industry as a whole survives.

CCP's job is to survive the competition.

Sooner or later, that "sink or swim" moment approaches in the life cycle of all companies, the necessity of having the right mix of talent and leadership... so we shall see.

I dare say we shall see, and soon.

Shocked

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )

The Lobsters
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2014-05-01 18:48:56 UTC
Eve is tougher than it looks. It will be very interesting to see how resilient Elite and Star Citizen are to the levels of meta gaming than is taken for granted in Eve.

I think Chris Roberts and David Braben may well get their hearts broken a bit when the games go live. They can seem a bit naive at times.

That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested his claim.

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#50 - 2014-05-01 18:56:30 UTC
The Lobsters wrote:
Eve is tougher than it looks.

in just about every sense
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#51 - 2014-05-01 19:05:31 UTC
How cute. Another "EVE is not the way I like it, and devs won't change it so it is! So other games must be better!" thread.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#52 - 2014-05-01 19:26:51 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
Chribba wrote:
Watch the FanFest keynotes and you'll come to see why there's really nothing to worry about.

/c

Do you know if these will be made available to those who didn't make it to Fanfest?


Fan Fest live stream

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#53 - 2014-05-01 19:37:31 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
Tippia wrote:
There's nothing on the horizon that really offers anything EVE-like.


sorry to say, but then u are deluded...



Really? So lets look at Star Citzen and eve side by side (note this info might be a bit old and changed)

EVE's economy is player driven, with a few npc orders (bpo's and trade goods) the economy is a capitalist/free market guys wet dream. You make something you set the price. Supply and demand determins if its sold at that price
Star Citizen (SC for the rest of this post) Is NPC driven. You control 'nodes' and use these to make stuff for the npcs in the universe. NPC's set the prices

In EvE when a ship blows up the attacker can loot the wreck
In SC this is not the case

In EVE you can control a star system, build a station and defend it.
As far as I know this is not going to happen in SC

When you die in eve you are recloned to start again, and if you were not careful lost skill points
In SC... dieing is, according to CR, a rare event. When your ship blows up the escape pod is towed to a medical facility and your body takes damage, over time you will have a perm death and have to reroll a char, all your assets will go to this 'next of kin'

EvE has a real time xp and skill system
SC has no skill system

EvE is a single server
SC will be many servers

EvE is real time
SC is instanced

In eve, if I undock in jita, I see everyone in jita that's undocked with me
in SC if I dunock from earth I will only see who is in my instance, no one else exist for me.

in eve I can pvp anywhere I want, with some consequence. But I can't avoid it.
IN SC I can avoid all pvp. According to some pvp in high sec in sc will be near impossible.

in eve I can gank (kill) miners and defencless ships to get there goodies inside
In SC... you can't, unless they are set to allow pvp, or SC's chance based system lets you... and there will be nothing to loot

in SC I can fly in planets
Eve I can not

in sc I can board and hijack ships... if they are in my instance and have pvp on and I have buddies to help me
in eve I can not.

Honestly, neither game are alike. A few parts of SC I might enjoy, some just sound bonkers to me. But that's just me

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#54 - 2014-05-01 19:43:42 UTC
The future of eve is looking bright, if done correctly. CCP has refocused all there efforts onto eve. As Hilmar said in the valk keynote they are working on making the eve universe.

CCP could have something awesome coming, I am very excted about it, but we will see.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

John Yatolile
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#55 - 2014-05-01 20:01:26 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Graphics=/=Beauty

Say what he will about eve needing work, it's still stunning to take in when you take the time to ctrl f9

You should read the paper (because it's actually quite good) — it's not aesthetics in the sense of “looks” but more in the sense of “invoked emotional response”.

Anyway, the point is that SC and E:D compare to EVE in much the same way as StarCraft II or Dead Space or Kerbal Space Program do. I.e. not very much, in spite of the shared space setting.


I like KSP. It isn't meant to be EVE. Hell I play it by abusing physics and mucking around rather than successful flights.
Bayonnefrog
Blueprint Mania
#56 - 2014-05-01 20:10:20 UTC
I don't know about the future of Eve but I will say that it has something that no other game has. Whether it's the graphics or the risk v reward gameplay it's just fantastic. It took me several trial accounts before I really committed to Eve. That is something no other game has. It's challenging but rewarding. I used to play WoW. WoW is fine. But it is a joke compared to Eve. WoW will be long gone before Eve goes anywhere. Not worried.
Tarpedo
Incursionista
#57 - 2014-05-01 20:20:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarpedo
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Those who will leave Eve for Space Citizen shouldn't be here in the first place.

I am checking EVE forums sometimes - to see if my toon got in-game mails and re-queue 20+ days skills once in a blue moon. I guess CCP count me as "active subscriber". But I am playing *the other* space game - with avatars (no, it's not SWTOR - which surely sucks).

Maybe EVE has future - but without me. And that's my opinion even before release of two other MMO sandbox space games.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2014-05-01 20:21:40 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Those who will leave Eve for Space Citizen shouldn't be here in the first place.


It would be highly amusing if Star Citizen turned out to be a scam worthy of Eve Online. Big smile

I'm not suggesting SC is intended as a scam, but is sure as hell looks like one right now.

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Legetus Shmoof Metallii
Resilience.
The Initiative.
#59 - 2014-05-01 20:27:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Legetus Shmoof Metallii
Just because there are other space themed games doesn't mean they will be the same as EVE and offer the same experience.

EVE appeals to a certain type of person, just like someone who plays ARMA won't necessarily enjoy Call of Duty, and vice versa, they may both be FPSes, but they don't off the same experience.

Duh

O tempora o mores!

Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#60 - 2014-05-01 20:37:20 UTC
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Those who will leave Eve for Space Citizen shouldn't be here in the first place.


It would be highly amusing if Star Citizen turned out to be a scam worthy of Eve Online. Big smile

I'm not suggesting SC is intended as a scam, but is sure as hell looks like one right now.



I told some of my EVE mates that has invested in SC, that it could be a good old ponzi sceme :D that wasnt nicely recieved lol