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I have no space on C. Eve cannot unpack. Help needed.

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hired goon
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#1 - 2011-12-02 13:35:25 UTC
My C drive is only a 30gb SSD, and Windows 7 has eaten pretty much all of it. Even though my Eve install is on my massive D drive, the installer insists on 'unpacking' to C before it installs. Therefore I cannot update the game. I wonder if anyone may offer advice in this situation.

Yes I have told Windows to put all of 'Documents and Settings' and 'Users' on D. It doesn't listen.

Thanks.
Janos Saal
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2011-12-02 13:36:30 UTC
hired goon wrote:
My C drive is only a 30gb SSD, and Windows 7 has eaten pretty much all of it. Even though my Eve install is on my massive D drive, the installer insists on 'unpacking' to C before it installs. Therefore I cannot update the game. I wonder if anyone may offer advice in this situation.

Yes I have told Windows to put all of 'Documents and Settings' and 'Users' on D. It doesn't listen.

Thanks.

Maek some space on your c divre

hoep tihs hjeklps

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hired goon
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#3 - 2011-12-02 13:39:14 UTC
Janos Saal wrote:

Maek some space on your c divre

hoep tihs hjeklps


I can't, it is comprised entirely of system files and the page file, as well as other items I am unsure the function of. Thanks for the reply though.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2011-12-02 13:41:45 UTC
download the full "updated" client from torrent.. ?
Nelix Trist
IRON-STAR ARMAMENTS
#5 - 2011-12-02 13:41:57 UTC
Have you tried to lower the size of the I.E cache file? Normally is around a gig of space... Or how about updating the client on another machine, then just moving it back onto your SSD?

Out of thought - Are you updating an already installed client? what happens in you download the full installer and try to run that?

Oh hi

Aristenn Chasteaux
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2011-12-02 13:42:12 UTC
hired goon wrote:
My C drive is only a 30gb SSD



I've seen flash drives twice that size What?
Nelix Trist
IRON-STAR ARMAMENTS
#7 - 2011-12-02 13:42:14 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
download the full "updated" client from torrent.. ?



Bahhhh - Beat me to it :P

Oh hi

Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#8 - 2011-12-02 13:47:26 UTC
I don't wish to sound flippant but why are you using such a small C: drive when windows uses most of it?

I haven't tried but you could maybe use 7z (7 zip) to unpack the update .exe to somewhere other than C.

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hired goon
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#9 - 2011-12-02 13:52:46 UTC
Thanks for the replies all. I hope I would not have to torrent the entire of Eve, as I don't generally trust torrents, and wouldn't doing so over write my settings and all the things CCP have moved to local recently? I will only torrent eve as a last resort.

As for the IE Cache file Nelix, I hope there is no such thing, as the only time I have used IE on this install is to download Firefox. I may update eve on my netbook then move it over to my desktop - though that would be a slow and cumbersome process.

Yes Aristenn I bought this SSD a few years ago when they were just getting popular, and anything above 30gb would have cost hundreds. Also, I foolishly swallowed the bull about Windows 7 being as light as XP, and expected my new win7 install couldn't be much larger than XP's 5gb.

My annoyance lies mostly with CCP (and other developers) for insisting on this ludicrous practice of installing EVERYTHING to C documents and settings (and strangely, again, in a mirror fashion, in C users).

A glance at my C: now using Sequoiaview shows a large proportion of my SSD being used by Eve temp files and settings. Duplicated. Thrice.

When I was your age, installing a game meant making a folder and putting EVERYTHING in that folder. You could copy the whole thing to another computer and just double-click the exe.

The other day my web connection went down and I couldn't play X-COM apocalypse because I purchased it using Steam.
Lumadane
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#10 - 2011-12-02 14:02:27 UTC
Change your temp file location. You should be able to google how to do that, but if you can't figure it out, let me know and when I'm at home in front of a win 7 pc, i'll look at how to do that.
Commander Spurty
#11 - 2011-12-02 14:03:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Commander Spurty
This is a reoccurring issue for you guys.

If my work load dies down a bit, I'll write up a self help (ie educate you so your ignorance doesn't turn to hate)

Its not obvious to non-nerds how to fix this and yet the solution is free

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And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

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hired goon
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#12 - 2011-12-02 14:06:11 UTC
Lumadane and Spurty, I have followed guides on how to tell windows 7 to relocate Documents & Settings / Users. It did not work however.

If you are referring to an edit to an Eve config file somewhere Spurty, that would be hugely useful and appreciated.
Alexandros Balfros
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
#13 - 2011-12-02 14:09:33 UTC
Install EVE to a different drive then rename the appdata files to match, simples >.>
Lauren Hellfury
Super Happy Awesome Fun Times
#14 - 2011-12-02 14:10:02 UTC
i'd guess more likely making a junction from C:/temp to D:/somma

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Mirabi Tiane
#15 - 2011-12-02 14:10:31 UTC
You need to move the folder EVE downloads stuff to, and then create a "symbolic link" (or "hard link") to trick EVE into using the new location.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/16226/complete-guide-to-symbolic-links-symlinks-on-windows-or-linux/

I don't know the exact location of the folder on Vista/7, but on XP it's here:
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\CCP
Farrisen
MoaR ChickeN
#16 - 2011-12-02 14:12:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Farrisen
If no else has suggested it (tierd cba reading :P)

Relocate your "temp" folder to a HDD with space.

"guide"

bah already been suggested:P

http://i.imgur.com/DWBuV.png

Originally by: CCP Spitfire: It's because of falcon.

ivar R'dhak
Deus est Mechanicus
#17 - 2011-12-02 14:53:26 UTC  |  Edited by: ivar R'dhak
Or just bite the bullet and get yourself a 128gig drive.
It´s not very healthy for your data to run a full SSD anyway. And the speed gain of a new 128gig compared to your old 32 should be significant.

Others have already posted proper guides, symbolic links are your friend. As is smart relocation of unneeded data.

Did you try to move your Document folders like this ?
Should work. You were logged in as Admin, right?
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#18 - 2011-12-02 14:55:21 UTC
Mirabi Tiane wrote:
You need to move the folder EVE downloads stuff to, and then create a "symbolic link" (or "hard link") to trick EVE into using the new location.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/16226/complete-guide-to-symbolic-links-symlinks-on-windows-or-linux/

I don't know the exact location of the folder on Vista/7, but on XP it's here:
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\CCP


this is the answer, use it
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#19 - 2011-12-02 15:48:54 UTC
*facepalm* you don't use SSDs that small for system drives

you use them for ready boost drives.

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.

hired goon
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#20 - 2011-12-03 18:15:41 UTC
Thanks everyone for the help. I investigated those "hard links" and they look good, but I had trouble moving my Documents & Settings, and my Users folder off C. Win7 no likey.

In the end I found this

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itproperf/thread/09578403-a363-49ac-beb1-33f0da8d0e25/

Which addresses a folder called "winsxs" in Windows 7 that just gets larger and larger, storing unneeded temp files. Most people say you should not delete it as Windows would flip out, but in that thread someone recommends typing the command "dism /online /cleanup-image /spsuperseded" into the command prompt. My 30gb SSD suddenly went from 500mb free, to 6.5gb free. Now I have updated Eve successfully. Yay.
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