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New eve profession: grief by driving up auctions

Could these specialized NPC work teams (that could potentially be player trained via PI) possibly serve as some kind of interaction for DUST's planet side activities? i.e. attacking a team in training, in transit, on site, defending, extracting, sabotaging, etc.?

EDIT: This (along with other ideas) could provide a much needed boost in connectivity between EVE and DUST and an incredibly overdue expansion of PvP game modes and and introduction for PvE activities in DUST.

you add a nice amount of **** in cycle production...meanwhile pos and sov code still waiting to be rework?

After taking a day to re-think it, I'm still concerned about the idea where teams will create production consolidation which increases risk to the industrialist.

Teams will be purchased because there is enough interest in them for that system to beat out everyone else. That implies that a non-trivial number of people are interested in making that class of thing. I would imagine that given the price differential, we're looking at people trying to pick up both the broad and narrow specialties. That further implies that more things will be made using the broad and narrow specialties as people decide to take advantage of the team while it's there.

Now, not all items are popular in a given area. There tend to be regional preferences. So we're increasing the chance that people will be creating similar things. It's already reduced by regional preference, then further reduced by chasing opportunity. Costs go up for raw components for demand to produce while the market is glutted with items of a certain class. Say small-scale/frigates. While I don't expect everyone to target that one thing I do expect that teams will end up being a net-negative in terms of a profitability of the people trying to make the most use of them -- unless they end up shipping their stuff far away.

So I expect to see a couple of percentage points of profitability trimmed off of a lot T1 goods where the blueprints are common enough to have a non-trivial number of people having them in reserve. T2 components will be less effected, may end up glutting the market in much the same way. It seems that sitting on inventory is going to be even more critical than it has before. This may end up hurting small-scale and low-skill industrialists.

(That said, overall the expansion is incredibly good for low-skill industrialists from the removal for the need for ME reducing skills meaning they can compete right away and not having to wait for months for skill slots in popular high-sec).

A 50% (not doubled) increase in fuel requirements, will surely cripple the wallets of the null sec fat cats and put them in the bread lines. Also, there are no other changes taking place in the summer expansion. Only fuel requirement changes.

Only on the few top teams and then exploit the hell out of the advantage for that month with preplanned job runs

I don't mind driving up auction prices, there will be a message in the end of the auction telling me who I have been griefing >:)

go back and reread the post i quoted numbnuts

The calculation for an industrialist will be like this:

+ Value of team bonus (materials saved, or faster production)
- Extra salary cost
=Benefit from hiring team

if the first two make a positive number it will likely be rather small. That's for one job, so it gets multiplied with more jobs. So controlling more jobs (as an individual with alts, or as a corp or alliance) makes it more worth it to bid on a team.

So we have Benefit * jobs# - cost of winning auction

Very likely not worth it for individuals, unless they're using a dozen alts producing the same thing. The individual industrialist will also invite more people to his production system (=higher cost) and possibly make it easier for competitors to produce (who are freeriding and didn't pay bids).

If a highsec industry corp wins an auction for a juicy team they can be sure that many other industrialists will come to their system and make it more expensive to produce, also inviting competition.

Nullsec alliances will be able to make it work. They have lots of pooled ISK from their activities and they can control who can produce in their system and station.

Possible EVE-like solution:
Entity that posed a bid can increase the extra salary cost by a percentage and effectively tax people for using the teams he acquired for the system. With multiple bidders the tax would be the weighted average (by % of winning bid made) of the tax rates set by each bidder and every bidder would receive a cut of the tax income according to his weight.

May be a very interesting game for the space-rich. With this system bidders have to consider: how much does it cost to win the team, what is the expected tax income and what is the best tax rate (too high and nobody will use the team).

Yeah, how's that Star Citizen industry expansion coming along? WTF. SC. Enjoy your ship and hangar. Have they implemented ship spinning yet?

You had me at the level of increased complication and uncertainty, some of it just to be complicated. But then you went full popsicle with the Star Citizen horseshite. C'mon man.