Science & Industry

My understanding so far is that having a POS will result in a 5% less material cost for manufacturing. Sadly there is also mention of a new tax rate being applied to using POS slots but nothing final has been stated yet.

My initial opinion is, we will see less alt-corp POS’s in highsec a few months after these changes since many of us will be able to use stations 8 to 12 jumps from trade hubs and save 100 million isk per month in ice costs. Then factor in the PITA it is to log in everyday and check for wardecs, hauling ice, doing PI to reduce the cost of fuel blocks and now having to leave your BPO in a POS if you are making copies from it. You can also make copies from a station and leave your BPO there but then you are subject to the new slot cost and taxes which was what you wanted to avoid by having a POS. Did I mention you also don’t have to spend 500 million isk on a POS and modules if you use the new station slots that are coming?

Also waste is being added into the base materials instead of being extra, ME reduce total minerals down such that "perfect" is the same in the future as it is now.

Yes put it this way: Instead of a real economy where producing in volume would reduce your costs, CCP have decided they should increase the more you make. Apparently there's also no reason whatsoever to take into account the cost of fuel blocks used by POSes, which for a large are quite considerable.

That's just my understanding. I could be wrong.

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Basically it comes down to:

Summer expansion is going to change everything we think we know about manufacturing and POS ownership.

We won't know anything with certainty until we see either more devblogs explaining some of the finer points, videos from fanfest doing the same or maybe not even until we actually log in the first time after the patch.

What I would expect though, is that POS ownership is going to have huge benefits, likely close to zero job costs (unless you're paying tax to the owner to help cover fuel costs ect) and I would also suspect your POS slots wouldn't suffer from the same scaling costs. They likely will still have to pay for teams if they want to get the benefits as described in today's devblog.

I think beyond what we can see in the devblogs and the few things they hint at, all is speculation at this point. Juicy, juicy, exciting speculation.

As I understand it, the more "congested" a system is, the more each individual "slot" will cost.

It's more population driven, roughly (more or less) the way the cost of OFFICES has been for years. The busier the system, the more an office costs since they are rented more often/consistently.

AND STILL no mention of how Standings will affect things. Serious flaw, right there, but I can see how any meaningful percantage bonus based on Standings would play Hell with CCP's math to make Null the most attractive.

Whatever the case may be you might want to get your hands on a few of those beastly BPC's. After the expansion the computation gets a little murky when figuring out the new manufacturing cost and time....

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J(x) = Li(x) + \sum_{\rho} Li(x^\rho) - \log 2 + \int_{x}^\infty \frac{dt}{t(t^2 - 1)\log t} or pi(x) = \sum_{n = 1}^\infty \frac{\mu(n)}{n} J(\sqrt[n]{x})

Wow, dabbling in the science and industry side of this game should help me with my thesis on the patterns in prime numbers.