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Is it possible to organize a Burn Goon Space event?

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Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#41 - 2014-04-30 02:37:59 UTC
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
Or are the logistics beyond the average unorganized capsuleer? Ugh


We'll find out this autumn when BNI deploys north.
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
#42 - 2014-04-30 02:42:39 UTC
So you can sneak in and pop some random folks. BEEP has done that a few times. If you could get a few thousand pilots that are solid 100% committed with deep pockets and organized you might even get noticed. But the sad reality is they would probably love the distraction.

It will really take most of the best players together and committed to the task to ever really make a dent on the goons.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#43 - 2014-04-30 03:00:18 UTC
hiseccers won't engage in a "burn VFK" event because it doesn't have good isk/hr

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Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#44 - 2014-04-30 03:27:12 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
So you can sneak in and pop some random folks. BEEP has done that a few times. If you could get a few thousand pilots that are solid 100% committed with deep pockets and organized you might even get noticed. But the sad reality is they would probably love the distraction.

It will really take most of the best players together and committed to the task to ever really make a dent on the goons.


I think most of the point to Burn Jita is to make you try exactly this, get dunked but have fun in the process.
Cassandra Aurilien
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2014-04-30 03:28:34 UTC
Your best bet... Find at least 20K angry aggressive & organized players who don't speak any known language (preferably who also happen to have a large capital fleet that no one knows about) and somehow convince them to follow you on your mad crusade.

There were those rumors running about a while back that Goonswarm was actually a CIA front (got to love Fox News...) - you might be able to convince Kim Jong-un to get 30 thousand or so of his people to play EVE... I think your odds of that are a LOT better than organizing a high-sec assault force.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#46 - 2014-04-30 03:32:55 UTC
The goons are fundamentally designed as an organization in such a way that any grieving tactics play into their hands. They are grievers. Grieving goons is simply validation for them. Scam or rob them. That's your only real option.

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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#47 - 2014-04-30 03:59:20 UTC
Cassandra Aurilien wrote:
There were those rumors running about a while back that Goonswarm was actually a CIA front (got to love Fox News...) - you might be able to convince Kim Jong-un to get 30 thousand or so of his people to play EVE... I think your odds of that are a LOT better than organizing a high-sec assault force.

You might be onto something there. Someone get Dennis Rodman on the bat-phone, STAT! He'll carry the secret message to Kim Jong-un on his next visit to serenade the beloved leader, get 80k screaming North Korean women opening up trial accounts to get the job done. Of course... there probably aren't even 300 computers in the country, let alone anything to plug them into... but I suppose they could share.

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John Ending
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2014-04-30 04:06:52 UTC
Gogela wrote:
The goons are fundamentally designed as an organization in such a way that any grieving tactics play into their hands. They are grievers. Grieving goons is simply validation for them. Scam or rob them. That's your only real option.


I grieved when I read this post
Doireen Kaundur
Doomheim
#49 - 2014-04-30 04:20:55 UTC
Gogela wrote:
The goons are fundamentally designed as an organization in such a way that any grieving tactics play into their hands. They are grievers. Grieving goons is simply validation for them. Scam or rob them. That's your only real option.


I dont want to grief them. I just want to blow them up. Over and over again. That's all. Big smile

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#50 - 2014-04-30 04:36:27 UTC
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
Gogela wrote:
The goons are fundamentally designed as an organization in such a way that any grieving tactics play into their hands. They are grievers. Grieving goons is simply validation for them. Scam or rob them. That's your only real option.


I dont want to grief them. I just want to blow them up. Over and over again. That's all. Big smile


Why them in particular? Because if you just want to blow people up, I suggest becoming a suicide ganker.

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2014-04-30 04:52:31 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
New to me. So I guess it has been brought up before and deemed undoable huh?


Hence the "Herding Cats" remark, because that's what its like trying to organize any kind of highsec invasion of ..well..pretty much anywhere. The only person to successfully hellcamp Goonspace was Harry Forever, you may want to ask him for advice and/or help.



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knobber Jobbler
State War Academy
Caldari State
#52 - 2014-04-30 05:54:02 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Ask Harry Forever.


Shooting alt tabbed cyno alts on the VFK undock is categorically not burning goon space.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#53 - 2014-04-30 06:07:30 UTC
knobber Jobbler wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Ask Harry Forever.


Shooting alt tabbed cyno alts on the VFK undock is categorically not burning goon space.


Anybody want to buy this guy a sarcasm detector?

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Marsha Mallow
#54 - 2014-04-30 06:36:07 UTC
Since no-one seems capable of organising a Burn Goons event, shall we ask them to do it for us? We can just show up In VFK with nibbles and booze.

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Dave Stark
#55 - 2014-04-30 06:42:29 UTC
Andski wrote:
hiseccers won't engage in a "burn VFK" event because it doesn't have good isk/hr


that and the fact that they don't really have a reason to attempt a burn vfk event.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#56 - 2014-04-30 06:50:35 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Andski wrote:
hiseccers won't engage in a "burn VFK" event because it doesn't have good isk/hr


that and the fact that they don't really have a reason to attempt a burn vfk event.


That depends on if you listen to the forums, or mention Goons in local. For all the talk, seems like there'd be plenty of reason.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#57 - 2014-04-30 06:52:04 UTC
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March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2014-04-30 07:00:40 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Andski wrote:
hiseccers won't engage in a "burn VFK" event because it doesn't have good isk/hr


that and the fact that they don't really have a reason to attempt a burn vfk event.


That depends on if you listen to the forums, or mention Goons in local. For all the talk, seems like there'd be plenty of reason.

if you don't like mosquitos it doesn't make you go to the forest/swamp and burn them. You just use protection and move on.

The same is about goons: you use protection and never care about them

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Aralyn Cormallen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#59 - 2014-04-30 07:00:52 UTC
Pix Severus wrote:
Sometimes I fantasise about highsec "rising-up" against nullsec. Thousands upon thousands of miners, mission-runners, traders, and those guys who spend all day sat on Jita 4-4 undock, all heading into the unknown together to completely stomp everything that stands in their way, in an incredible show of camaraderie. Then I snap back to reality, knowing that it will never happen, and it's not because highsec players are hard to organise, it's that they are impossible to organise.


Also, see the Doril massacre for a CCP-provided assault on Nullsec P
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#60 - 2014-04-30 07:09:47 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
that and the fact that they don't really have a reason to attempt a burn vfk event.


is that why we see a "hisec must rise against the goons" thread on GD every couple of weeks?

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