Player Features and Ideas Discussion

As i see it this is a BUFF to shallow 0.0. Oft described as '**** sov' it now has its time to shine by exporting to high sec with lower costs. Great!

Less blopsing? Win in my books as someone who is in a blops hotspot. How many bombers could be blopsed in and out before and how many after?

And provi doesn't really use caps except JF but i see it as an opportunity to import stuff for cheaper in blockade runners \o/ I have changed my OOC alts training to an Ark instead of an Anshar (extra like 1 day training, no biggie)

JBs are still gonna be dirt cheap, if you can't afford to fuel a JB then you are hopeless, it's like an hour of mining DG for a few days fuel...

So yeah, pretty good from where i'm sat in KBP. I'm worried about the true small groups in low sec like aridia who need JFs though. Low sec needs some love CCP!


Edit: alot of people are complaining about regional isotopes, either go to low sec and mine them (cloaky miasmos ftw), or put out the extra isk. Please don't bend to these slackers CCP, this is an opportunity for low sec :)

If you did want to make isotope use the way to influence power projection... Would it be possible to have isotope use increase logarithmically or exponentially based on distance? Max range would then be more a limit of fuel bay size and such.

Would take some balancing. But could add some interesting decisions I think.

But I do think space is to small and power projection to easy.

This is a good post.

LOL THIS IS ONE OF THE DUDES WE'RE BLOPSING ALL THE TIME

edit: NUMBER OF BOMBERS IS THE SAME IT JUST COSTS 50% MORE

AND YA WE DONT PLAN ON CHANGING OPERATIONAL STATUS

WATCH UR BACK LOL

no mate, you can literally bridge the exact same amount of bombers

1.5(Fuel Amount) * .66(Isotope Volume) = 0.99

and we all know 0.99 is really just 1

Can we get a dislike button already? This way CCP could get some real feedback.

You really don't understand the situation? You always have an option to replace grinding for selling one PLEX... or two... or ten.
Or you have other option

Nope, you're Blopsing all the idiots that were getting blopsed before you were even here.

When are you moving in so we can return the favor? I bet HERO has more idiots than provi... just got to grind all that undefended sov LOL. It's only taken you like 3 weeks so far ;) At this rate NC. will need new pets, even EMP were more competent ...


But back onto the topic. Power projection is due a nerf, it's just a matter of what gets nerfed. I'd rather pay more and retain jump ranges than be forced to make another jump (moving cyno alts) and pay more with no reduction in tope usage anyways. Somethings got to give and at least this way it's incentivising 0.0 and low ice mining of stuff other than DG.

Firstly I would like to personally thank ISD for locking the thread whilst I replied causing me to lose my reply.

Secondly, I fail to see why this change is necessary, anticipation of a market moving is an important thing and I appreciate CCP doing this, however, I am quite certain a lot more isotopes disappears into null sec POS's (especially reaction chain POS's) than in to jump drives and without that being considered the eve market is one that will adjust and adapt without you guys doing anything. Taken in isolation the stated desire to ensure you "cushion" the isotope market is simply giving a free kick to hi sec AFK ice harvesters.

Thirdly you stated you wanted to encourage local resource gathering. This statement is diametrically opposed to everything you have done in the last few months for local null sec carebears, between the ******** ESS, a straight out nerf to ratters and gift to gank loving, real fight avoiding roamers and the retardely overpowered (since slightly nerfed) interceptors ignoring bubbles, align times and anything except another 10*remote sebo'ed interceptor to catch them.

If you are serious about improving the idea of local resource gathering, i.e. ice mining, then a couple of points, 1) all the nitrogen isotopes I gather in Vale of the Silent are never going to do anything but take up space in any jump capable ship unless that ship happens to be a Rhea, Chimera, Wyvern, Phoneix (lol) or Leviathan. This makes your "local resource gathering" with respect to isotopes plain silly, bordering on mindless, ultimately it is a through away line. 2) Those ice belts in Vale of the Silent are little better than the those in hi sec, but risk is much higher. You know, risk/reward? The thing is you added unstoppable interceptors to the game and now there is too much risk undocking my mining fleet. 3) Incentives to have corp/alliance mates cover mining ops are practically non-existent. This ties in with reward, the yields from ice mining aren't sufficient to me to provide a cut to someone flying PVP or PVE combat ships as cover for me.

So, in summary, how about you go away and do a proper job of thinking about this, maybe have that lovely economist CCP Dr Eoyj (apologies for not being able to spell that) do some modelling of the isotope markets to see if this change is needed, then see if you need to financially ruin anyone jump drive owning pilot not in a large and wealthy alliance.

Also, why tinker with the isotope market, how about fixing POS's and force projection instead?

Dear CCP,

If you want to rebalance capital ships then why don't you rebalance them instead of beating around the bush?



Judging by what you have said it seems the main reason for this change is solely to influence the market (something I thought CCP has stated it would never do unless PLEX prices become an issue) based on speculation that the demand for fuel may drop....

If you really wanted to implement this to increase the usage cost of owning a capital then you should have stated that as the only goal and then listed under residual outcomes/side effects the possibility it may "Stimulate the isotope market to help...."

I am still continuing to lose faith in you CCP.