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T1 Logi build for neutral repping
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Logan PewPew
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2014-04-29 15:34:32 UTC
Just out of curiousity does anyone have any tried/true neutral repping builds?

Obviously the ship would need to be Scythe(shield) or Exequror(armor).

My buddy will probably be running a Gnosis so the tank is subject to change. (I suggested shield tank because, i thought, it would allow him more DPS but it would also remove his ability to lock people down via scrams/webs etc.)

As far as the scram/webs go - I think this is probably the most important part of what he's going to be doing so armor tank may end up being the best idea but i'd love to hear feedback from people.

Thanks in advance!
Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#2 - 2014-04-29 16:52:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Starbuck05
I wish i wasnt at work so i could link my osprey fit that i use to rep up my dessie alts when i safari..but, here's from my head.

3 med rr's
2 med energy transfers

1 10mn ab
4 cap rechargers

1 dmg control
2 cap power relays

3 ccc's


But , since ur buddy is going for gnosis i recomend the folowing .

Since gnosis has 6 mids have him grab a cap booster for neuting and if he uses hybrids/lazers and just 1 invul with 3 extender rigs should suffice , rest can be 3 points and full dps in the low.

Your osprey or scythe should have atleast 2 large rr's the rest med ones , and a cap boster for extra stability , the rest cap recharges and rigs.

Thats how i would do it.

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Logan PewPew
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-04-29 17:29:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Logan PewPew
Starbuck05 wrote:

Your osprey or scythe should have atleast 2 large rr's the rest med ones , and a cap boster for extra stability , the rest cap recharges and rigs.


Based on my limited understanding of game mechanics the Osprey could not remain cap-stable without utilizing a cap chain with other Osprey's.

So with the 10mn AB, I just anchor on the Gnosis and orbit at like 5k?

My only concern at this point is the occasional carebear who tries to just blap me with a CNR or something, i wanna make sure i can at least take the initial alpha from them. Is a full cap-recharge fit really viable?

Also i've heard that there are some instances of neutral-logi getting flagged suspect? Can anyone confirm this?
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-04-29 17:59:09 UTC
Logan PewPew wrote:
Starbuck05 wrote:

Your osprey or scythe should have atleast 2 large rr's the rest med ones , and a cap boster for extra stability , the rest cap recharges and rigs.


Based on my limited understanding of game mechanics the Osprey could not remain cap-stable without utilizing a cap chain with other Osprey's.

So with the 10mn AB, I just anchor on the Gnosis and orbit at like 5k?

My only concern at this point is the occasional carebear who tries to just blap me with a CNR or something, i wanna make sure i can at least take the initial alpha from them. Is a full cap-recharge fit really viable?

Also i've heard that there are some instances of neutral-logi getting flagged suspect? Can anyone confirm this?


The osprey is definitely able to maintain a stable cap. I use one, and its stable.

Logi will flag suspect if you attempt to rep someone with an out-of-corp engagement timer. Its not just an IWIN button.

Logi ships also have fantastic range, so thinking more 70k than 5k.

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Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#5 - 2014-04-29 18:02:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Starbuck05
The fit i posted is cap stable.

The reason why i need an ab is because there are ocasions when i enter mission pockets and i need to aproach the accel gates faster... And as we all know mwd is a no go because of the huge cap instability.

As for the whole suspect thing it depends pretty much on what you do with ur logi or what your gnosis dose.

As far as i know ( might be wrong) neutral repping someone who is at war will flag you. But if you rep someone thats shooting/ awoxing a corp member is very much legit.

Ah also , im pretty sure a gnosis with 3 extender rigs an invul and dc2 would survive any alpha from any 1 BS .

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Logan PewPew
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2014-04-29 18:37:59 UTC
Starbuck05 wrote:

Ah also , im pretty sure a gnosis with 3 extender rigs an invul and dc2 would survive any alpha from any 1 BS .


Yeah, i meant my logi pilot. I KNOW that at least one of these guys will try to blap the logi ship (anger always trumps reason, amirite?) and while i'm sure the Concord will do their work i just wanted to make sure i don't get 1/2 shotted before they get concorded and then subsequently have my buddy get smacked and we lose out on the potential ransom etc.
Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#7 - 2014-04-29 18:46:20 UTC
Logi ships have the smallest sig res ,thats why i have the ab and dc2 to speed tank/ orbit & logi in case they do want to try they-re luck :)

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Logan PewPew
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2014-04-29 18:48:49 UTC
Starbuck05 wrote:
Logi ships have the smallest sig res ,thats why i have the ab and dc2 to speed tank/ orbit & logi in case they do want to try they-re luck :)


ah ok, so the speed tank should suffice...excellent. thanks again.
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-04-29 19:02:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Tengu Grib
Yeah the osprey won't need much of a tank to survive hits from a navy raven or whatever, plus you'll get to laugh all the way to the bank as the guy gets concorded.
I'd gladly trade an osprey for a CNR for instance. Only things that would be able to alpha you off the field would have a hard time applying damage if you're moving, even a modest tank will be sufficient.

As long as you don't go suspect that is, which won't happen if you're only shooting corp mates, just make sure the awox toon and the logi toon both have safeties green and you won't be able to screw up.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#10 - 2014-04-30 00:29:13 UTC
You really don't need a carefully thought out fit for neutral logi in an AWOX situation.

If against low-opsec targets, just fit three reppers to an Exequeror with a little buffer and orbit at 30km.

If against medium-opsec targets, they will get neut ships and/or ECM once they realise someone is being held AWOX ransom so you should drop a repper and get a cap transfer and consider fitting local ECCM to your Gnosis and projected ECCM to your neutral logi.

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Cavalira
Habemus
#11 - 2014-04-30 09:29:34 UTC
Ahahah.

No wonder you need to use neutral repping alts, when you cannot figure out how to setup a logi fit.