EVE General Discussion

By reading this thread and similar discussions in other forums, I seem to detect a growing feeling of serious concerns (even distress) within the EVE player base in regards to the future of the game AND in the capacity of CCP to keep EVE interesting and alive.

There will be lots of hype.

Followed by an underwhelming delivery.

What is in the next expantion?

Not for us in EU :)

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Its a shame the overwhelming tone on the forums is of disappointment and cynicism about the future. Although how representative of the playerbase that is looks unclear - particularly with the first couple of devblogs about Industry receiving over 90 pages of feedback, most of which is cautiously optimistic or outright gleeful. We demanded fixes to old content, now it's underway people are moaning they want new content. Some of us complained our subs were being spent on side projects, now attention is firmly focused on the core game, and another wave of complaining ensues. CCP need to do another video with devs singing "Oh FFS" or "WTF Just Tell Us What You Really, Really Want".

The roadmap charts I've seen show a 5 year plan in which various elements are tweaked with each expansion rather than focusing exclusively on a niche area. It's not perfect, it might be too late, and sure other games are always being released which could pull away existing players, but when has that not been the case since 2003? I'm not all that sure the argument that new content expansions will attract new players is even valid. Despite imperfections with WHs Apocrypha is the one most frequently cited as a successful 'new content' release and Incarna the extreme opposite, despite being more anticipated. How much effect did either really have on new player acquisition anyway, and would the type of player attracted to Incarna features have integrated with the existing playerbase? B-R certainly created a sub spike, suggesting in a sandbox we should be attracting new players ourselves via ingame events.

I'd rather they stay on course, finish this development cycle then start on something new, or introduce new things in phases. Various quality of life improvements and small releases like siphon units and bastion mode that aren't horrendously complicated with unanticipated knock-on effects seem preferable to me. These industry changes will have a massive impact across the game, even for those who aren't industrialists. If people aren't seeing that they need to pay closer attention. They're halfway though this scheme so for long term players its not even a particularly lengthy timeframe until completion. If people can't wait another couple of years, are they really the type of players who should be pacified at the expense of vets anyway? It's alright labelling yourself a 'bittervet', but if you were that bitter you'd be moaning on another board about how terrible Eve is :P

The bright spark who thought it would be a good idea to release dev blogs on industry, research and manufacturing one at a time, over a period of months, needs to be fired. I mean if you want to troll the player base and be as irritating as possible, go ahead. But why would you want to irritate paying customers? I know it was a Producer, not a dev. Producers are dumbasses like that. You'd need to roll in around 10 producers to get the same weight of neurons as a single dev.

Wait.. you do realize jump fuel cost and set by players right? So I dunno what you mean by jump fuel cost increase beign a solution to a problem... or a problem it's self.

JF are not really a problem with industry. Lack of incentive to make **** in null sec is. Its easier and cheaper to build in empire and jump it to null then it is to build in null.

Null needs a expansion of its own to fix.

Baby steps people, you are trying to fix 9 (current reworking was 2 years ago and we are starting year 11 of eve) of incomplete and neglected crap. You can't wave a wand and fix it at once, its gonna take time. Patience younglings.

After reading the latest dev blog, it is abundantly clear that CCP has blindfolded the driver after pumping 10 Jagr's into him, dropped a brick on the gas pedal, cut the brake lines, and said, "it should all work out fine".

The amount of times I read "we hadn't thought about that", "we don't know", "we are adding that later", or "we don't have time", is flat out insane.

I am inclined to agree with DaReaper, fix what we have then move on.

It would help if CCP actually came out and said where the main thrust of their plans are for the next couple of years.

Right now it is unclear where the emphasis is for CCP, fix stuff or new stuff?

My argument against DUST has always been, why should a game I will never play, on a platform I do not wish to own be allowed to have any impact whatsoever on a game I do pay for on a platform I do own?

DUST, by any measurable standard has been a complete disaster so far, pretty poor reviews and and only played by a few people.

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, let it rest in peace.

CCP should stick to Eve Online and make it an even more wonderful game than it already is.

I respect your opinion DaReaper, but can you explain to me why a game I... see above.

The example you give of DUST Bunnies fighting for an 0.0 station pretty much encapsulates my issue with DUST, a game I have nothing to do with having an impact on a game I do play.