Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Will you be increasing the size of fleet hangars, since that's where most fuel is kept?

What about increasing the cargo size of black ops? Many people use cargo-expanded and rigged Black Ops to bridge around covert fleets and most of the fuel for that is kept in the cargo.

WTF!!!

You got no idea how annoyingly small the fuel bay of a black ops is and your nerfing it with a total of 20% now.
This is ****** up tbh.
That measly 10% over the rest is just shy an ounce of an insult.

Your tweet about starting a controversy is correct .... no beer or you.

ForceM

RIP affordable T2 heh

Cool, but not sure cost changes will do much

Cost for bridges should go up by more like 500%

This is a great solution: I would use this instead.

Stop ******* with so many portions of the game at once. Have you learned NOTHING from your past horrible failures at 'balance' passes? Adjust a few things and see what shakes out. You're nerfing the **** out of jump drive ships based on the slight possibility that there might maybe possibly be an issue. Have you ever considered waiting to see if that situation arises? Then adjusting accordingly? Rather than going balls deep straight out of the gate?

Stop treating us like 2 bit whores. We need a little foreplay before you jam the nerf bat up there.

this is okay for dreads, carriers, supers, titans

it sucks for jump freighters. don't do this while you are in the process of making null and low industry more viable

So this will be a minor annoyance for the logistics departments of large alliances and coalitions such as the CFC and PL, while it will be both a massive pain in the ass and a not insignificant cost increase in running caps for smaller alliances.

Yeah, there weren't few enough people risking capitals as it was. Nice change.

What?!

Do you have any idea of how much small (or newbies :D) alliances rely on jump freighting services when moving their stuff?

To take a typical situation in Brave, when moving our staging, a fresh newbie with 2/3 cruisers and a bunch of T1 frigates will die horribly to gate camps if trying to move his stuff himself, so he will use a jump freighting service. Its already barely affortable for some individuals, do you imagine how this increase in cost would affect them?

Logistics are already an horrible pain because the contract system is broken, because nullsec requires stupidly high amounts of human effort due to poor sov design, and now to add insult to injury, you try to make people that are new enough to the game that then can't move their stuff themselves... pay more to have their stuff moved? :(

Because lets face it, caps and supercaps pilots won't be much affected by that change. When you can afford a supercap, you can afford any jump cost. So the only people this change hits is less wealthy individuals just trying to have fun in an environnement that is against any fun (sov null). Did I mention that bridging is absurdly cheap compared to jumping? Yep, you heard it right, titans pilots are almost unaffected by this change, too.


Cost competitiveness for local ressource gathering in nullsec? How do in fuel my Rhea and Widow in Catch? Its amarr space, isotopes are useless for my ships out there, how can null-sec caldari ice belts be any "local" for me? Do you expect me to train all the way to Amarr Battleship V, Amarr Freighter IV, and buy an Amarr Jump freighter and Amarr Black OPS??

Sorry but this is one of the worst changes I've seen in this upcoming release and I hope you reconsider it.

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Suggested Alternative:
If you want to preserve revenues for the ice miner, just reduce the spawn rate of ice belts. It will effectively reduce offer in line with demand, instead of artificially increasing demand to match the same offer. Ice miners in high-sec don't ice mine all day anyway, because belts in their systems are usually empty in two hours max. So an ice miner cannot practice this activity 24/7 and is already prepared with alternatives when belts are unavailable. Reducing belt spawn rates wouldn't fundamentally change his gameplay.