EVE General Discussion

This is of course assuming that what Dino fears is actually bad, and not the best thing that could ever happen in an MMORPG

I'm playing Devil's advocate, of course.

I fully suspect that, if he replies to the point where his suggestion would basically eliminate either a huge number of subs or functionally remove an entire area of space, he'll say something along the lines of "break a few eggs".

So what he would be doing then, is suggesting that CCP toss aside an established, long term loyal, and paying playerbase in exchange for a purely theoretical one (casuals) that he promises is bigger than ones who are being told they aren't welcome in the game anymore.

So... Trammel.

Nevermind the fact that he would be fundamentally shattering the sandbox as well, by setting upper limits, saying "you are only allowed to win this much".

This is how destructive, insidious, and evil carebear thought is, ladies and gentlemen. Repent now, and be saved.

Oh I know.

As someone heavily in favour of fully-fledged player Empires (I dont care if its CFC, the Soviet Union, DinoCareBareStare or :snerk: SOLAR) I cant really see what Dino sees in his great vision of the EvE version of Homesteading nullsec

Woman we all got bombs to pay for!

That's because you're a reactionary, not a reasoning thinker. Sentries work just fine and I'm using them more now than before.

Stop trying to make facts fit your pre-drawn conclusions.

That would have nothing to do with nerfing your afk F1 monkeys would it? Followed by nerfing fully AFK drone gameplay?

Infact thats a brilliant maneuvre by CCP - by raising the barrier to entry for even a rudimentary 1000 man fight, they quickly cull the doe-eyed and reduce server load through Darwinian forces.

Saw your post, realized it was a universal truth. Fixed.



Some people can't deal with their own impotence. So they try to use other means (in games it's the developers or trying to get players to 'see the light' with a bunch of doomsday predictions, in real life it's the government or trying to get other citizens to 'see the light' with a bunch of doomsday predictions.....) and most times fail due to lack of support and an inability to get their point across to others without making those other people really really dislike them. At the end of the day, they fear failing more than they hate their enemies, so they don't even try.

The more these 'crusaders' talk the stronger there enemy gets. I spent a whole gaming career shooting at Goons and Goon allies (across multiple games, come on my bridge and dance while shooting me will you StarFleet Dental, screw you!!!!!! ), it didn't take me but a week of reading forums to change my mind and make me think I might want to join Goons myself lol.

If someone really wanted to get the goons, they wouldn't be posting conspiracy theories about Mittani RMTing his way to real life riches on forums and blogs on the internet. They'd stop sounding crazy, go to other games to recruit people victimized by Goons (of which there are many), bring them to EVE, put them in rifters and use the combination of anger and fun to do to Goons what Goons did to BoB.

That, of course, will never happen, because it's easier and safer for some people to keep praying that EVE eventually fails enough that 'new investors' buy the game and through some anti-capitalist magic decide that they don't want 45,000 constantly paid subs but would rather gamble on the fickle and easily bored carebear crowd.....

Some folks like to grasp at straws i guess. They get so caught up in the 'problem' or thing they don't likke that ANY solution sounds good, which is why they miss the obvious.

The obvious in the case is basically Malcanis' Law. ANYTHING they try to do to artificially help some downtrodden group (new players, small alliances, whatever) will end up only enriching the people they were trying to nerf (vets, big alliances, the evil cartels).

What would happen if CCP ever tried to do anything like this is that when it failed (and it would), the agitators who saw the change as a chance to beat you people (damn that sounded racist, good thing "Goon' isn't a racer lol) would simply blame it's lack of success on some conspiracy or some lack of 'DEVskill' on the part of CCP rather than realizing that it was their own beliefs that are at fault.

ok. so where is that "huge server load from using drone modules" present then?

Don't say me please that when i play my lvl4 with Rattlesnake some server node is dying

tried to do that a few times.

whoever had the bigger blob still won.



Case in point: all the changes CCP made over the years to break down the blob, actually made them bigger, better, badder. Titan doomsday AOE? shove 10 titans and start DD'ing multiple carriers. Sov mechanics? all they did was make the blobs bigger.

Untill CCP manages to counter the "Call friends" card, which is pretty much impossible, you can't counter blobs, period.