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Did you get help from other players when you first started?
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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#21 - 2014-04-29 06:59:58 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
However, I cannot fathom anyone not taking something for free in EvE if it is offered

Female players sometimes have issues with this. Eve was my first MMO so I started oblivious, but early on a corpie did a lengthy and enlightening rant in comms about girl gamers expecting free stuff and getting it. In all fairness he'd just come out of a WoW guild with a female guild leader who was banging half the guild behind her husbands back and causing all sorts of drama. He didn't seem to see it, but the flipside for the player is the risk of harassment from nutjobs if you do accept stuff.

Anyone who has ever had a drink bought for them in a bar by a random stranger will know there is often an expectation to then stand there feigning interest in their feeble chat up line before escaping. Which is why some just decline all offers to save hassle. Same thing with that scenario; some people would never turn down a free drink and can't get their heads around it v0v.


I guess I have been fortunate to be in Guilds and Corps where sexist nonsense such as a rant like that is not tolerated and is a permaban offense.

Ive never found a roofie in a Rifter though lol

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Purity by Fire
Purity Tax Haven
#22 - 2014-04-29 07:20:20 UTC
In the past ive helped corp members purchase ships.

I gave a guy 500 mill cos he was in corp and running out of isk to pvp.

In total over the years ive donated to corp, paid half help fees for carriers. Purchased barges and given presents of 200 mill ships to corp members and friends.

I dont do it on a whim though and it makes me feel good helping others in EvE get to there goals and keep players in game.

DAAYMM CCP gimmie a pr job ffs Lol

So like after 76 petitions I still dont have a logical normal answer.   Fly safe and fly true and use your headset on the Loo
Amaron Ghant
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#23 - 2014-04-29 09:13:56 UTC
when I started, I even got hand-outs from pirates.

True they then turned round later and blew me out of the ship(s) they'd paid for, but fun was had by all.... mostly them but I did get some tips out of it.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#24 - 2014-04-29 09:55:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
We had a vet from 06 join our corp shortly after we started,
who after about a month went on a break (hasn't logged on in nearly a year)
however before he buggered off into the IRL he spent ages teaching us how to fit ships,critiquing our fits and telling us how to train for them properly.
absolutely invaluable service and id strongly recommend others do the same.
(now with my luck hell log on tomorrow now that we actually have stuff and gut the corpLol)

We have a kind of beta vet as well who brought loads of stuff with him that we more or less had to take to be of any use to him.
iv had absolutely no financial aid though and i don't think any of my corpmates have either.

now that said iv earned a bit through the odd well timed clever remark and/or showing the right attitude when i was a newb and ill readily fork out for others that do the same.

Edit:i still think of myself as a newb, i meant brand newb

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Cpt Swagg
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2014-04-29 10:07:03 UTC
I made over 3 billion isks in my first 10 days of eve.

3 of them while on trial, then plexed account.

Yes someone helped me, by letting me salvage all his level 4 missions non stop for days.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#26 - 2014-04-29 10:12:20 UTC
Cpt Swagg wrote:
I made over 3 billion isks in my first 10 days of eve.

3 of them while on trial, then plexed account.

Yes someone helped me, by letting me salvage all his level 4 missions non stop for days.

http://gph.is/1e0T1tY

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Josef Djugashvilis
#27 - 2014-04-29 10:58:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
Cpt Swagg wrote:
I made over 3 billion isks in my first 10 days of eve.

3 of them while on trial, then plexed account.

Yes someone helped me, by letting me salvage all his level 4 missions non stop for days.


Presumably the person doing the level 4 missions did so in a Velator armed with mining lasers just to stop you being greedy and earning 10 billion in your first 10 days.


Oh, and put in a change of name request to CCP, from Cpt Swagg to Prt Bragg.

They are decent folk and will probably do it for you free of charge.

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Solecist Project
#28 - 2014-04-29 11:00:31 UTC
Didn't want it.
Didn't need it.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#29 - 2014-04-29 11:05:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
I received 2 million following my first pvp loss.

My reaction was, this community is so friendly and helpful.

I still think that now too.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#30 - 2014-04-29 11:33:39 UTC
I was in eve uni and they had programs for ships and skillbooks. Now I donate occsaionally to Euni when I remember to do so.

Advice, wikis, blogs all count as well (eg, Eve Altruist)
Jur Tissant
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2014-04-29 11:47:49 UTC
My corp gave me a boost when I had first joined. I tagged along to salvage some L4s in my destroyer and one of them paid me 40mil to haul something 5 jumps.
Farsiris Arbosa
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2014-04-29 12:23:08 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Many offers of isk and ships which I declined.

Many offers of advice which I gladly accepted.


That's what I did when I started (and still do now). I accept advice but not financial help.

I still suck at this game. Bad. Very very very bad.

Look at my sig, my sig is amazing
Josef Djugashvilis
#33 - 2014-04-29 12:28:17 UTC
Farsiris Arbosa wrote:
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Many offers of isk and ships which I declined.

Many offers of advice which I gladly accepted.


That's what I did when I started (and still do now). I accept advice but not financial help.

I still suck at this game. Bad. Very very very bad.


We have much in common my dear fellow Sad

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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#34 - 2014-04-29 14:12:16 UTC
Nope.

My first characters were amongst the first "generation" of pilots in the game, and charity was usually voiced in the familiar phrase of: "Get out and mine."

Which was substantially different in those days, nowhere near a lucrative with the effects of boosting and fleet bonuses, much less the vast assortment of crystals, mods and implants we have today.

Kids have it easy these days.



"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )
Farsiris Arbosa
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2014-04-29 14:33:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Farsiris Arbosa
God, reading all of your replies reminds me what an IDIOT I am.

Although I've declined all financial help, gifts etc., I've gotten tons and tons and TONS of advice from seasoned vets since I started. Do you know many months it took me to get 100 mil in my wallet?

It's a trick question. In the four months I've played, I've never made it there.

Granted, I had more than that in assets I never got around to selling (200m or so in assets in the first week? 300m or so by the second week) but I was never, ever, ever able to make it to even 100 mil. I lose a ship on a daily basis and have 100+ losses to less than 30 kills.

Is that abnormally bad?

Wait. Don't answer that. I know the answer.

I don't even know why I'm posting here. I guess it feels good to get it off my chest.

Hey everyone, if you think you're doing bad, here's a self-esteem boost for ya. You're welcome.

Look at my sig, my sig is amazing
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#36 - 2014-04-29 14:35:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Farsiris Arbosa wrote:
God, reading all of your replies reminds me what an IDIOT I am.

Although I've declined all financial help, gifts etc., I've gotten tons and tons and TONS of advice from seasoned vets since I started. Do you know many months it took me to get 100 mil in my wallet?

It's a trick question. In the four months I've played, I've never made it there.

Granted, I had more than that in assets I never got around to selling (200m or so in assets in the first week? 300m or so by the second week) but I was never, ever, ever able to make it to even 100 mil. I lose a ship on a daily basis and have 100+ losses to less than 30 kills.

Is that abnormally bad?

Wait. Don't answer that. I know the answer.

I don't even know why I'm posting here. I guess it feels good to get it off my chest.

Hey everyone, if you think you're doing bad, here's a self-esteem boost for ya. Your welcome.


I just want to hug you and give you an SB

Just like Peter gives poor Quagmire a baseball mitt in this clip from the hit series Family Guy;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8nKARNRe1U

Seriously though, take everythin you can

If its not nailed down, its yours

Dang, cats would be really good at EvE

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Farsiris Arbosa
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2014-04-29 14:46:16 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Farsiris Arbosa wrote:
God, reading all of your replies reminds me what an IDIOT I am.

Although I've declined all financial help, gifts etc., I've gotten tons and tons and TONS of advice from seasoned vets since I started. Do you know many months it took me to get 100 mil in my wallet?

It's a trick question. In the four months I've played, I've never made it there.

Granted, I had more than that in assets I never got around to selling (200m or so in assets in the first week? 300m or so by the second week) but I was never, ever, ever able to make it to even 100 mil. I lose a ship on a daily basis and have 100+ losses to less than 30 kills.

Is that abnormally bad?

Wait. Don't answer that. I know the answer.

I don't even know why I'm posting here. I guess it feels good to get it off my chest.

Hey everyone, if you think you're doing bad, here's a self-esteem boost for ya. Your welcome.


I just want to hug you and give you an SB

Just like Peter gives poor Quagmire a baseball mitt in this clip from the hit series Family Guy;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8nKARNRe1U

Seriously though, take everythin you can

If its not nailed down, its yours

Dang, cats would be really good at EvE


I do, I really try.

I'm a selfish bastard in EVE to everyone but friends.

I'm just not good. But thank you.


P.S. This is NOT a plea for ISK, though. My phlosophies haven't changed; anyone who sends ISK for no reason gets it sent back.

Look at my sig, my sig is amazing
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#38 - 2014-04-29 14:48:46 UTC
Farsiris Arbosa wrote:


I'm a selfish bastard in EVE to everyone but friends.



Just right.

Plus, I like your sig.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Farsiris Arbosa
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2014-04-29 14:51:07 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Farsiris Arbosa wrote:


I'm a selfish bastard in EVE to everyone but friends.



Just right.

Plus, I like your sig.


Why thank you.

But yeah, it's not my tactics in EVE so much as it is I'm bad at everything I've done in this game. I wish that was hyperbole.

Look at my sig, my sig is amazing
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#40 - 2014-04-29 15:04:01 UTC
Oh I wouldn't say you're an idiot, autonomy is an important thing in eve and if by decline material aid you feel you have helped develop that then You made the right decision.

The really important thing is that you recognized that the advice is the most valuable thing and took it on board.

Good attitude man keep it up.

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