EVE General Discussion

Nerf friends...too stronk!

Any reason why Omnis hurt server load but Tracking Comps don't?

... and drone doctrines

This is presumably about fleet battles and blobs, not people shooting rats.

Probably came up as an issue during Burn Jita.

A friend stacking penalty.

For every friendly pilot in a fleet above 2 memebers, each member will take a .5% decrease to range, tracking, max velocity and fleet command bonuses.

Actually, I was thinking of how to deal with the problem of the blob over beer and wings tonight.
The only real approach I could take to tackle the problem is "if the cartels cannot counter the solution, then it has potential".
Fundamentally , it comes down to this: You have to carve out their economic hearts in a manner where scaling to immense size is incredibly inefficient. I am talking not so much on the blob in a a battle, but on the size of an organization.

But naturally, any conversation about limiting the size of a cartel is a non-starter with CCP and especially the CSM.

There are ways to do it, but there is zero chance that cartel leaderships will allow their income streams to be eviscerated.

So do the cycle times themselves have an effect on performance, or is this a case of just making drones less attractive so people will stop using them so much?

It was the very tech cartelling goonswarm that lobbied for the destruction of and thus ruined the tech gravy train, ie they always believed that income starting from the average player was more important than alliance income - and they supported that belief with actions.

In any case the 3 elements you need to understand the change are.

CCP says performance.
I say carriers have lots of drones.
Sal Landry says, omnis update all the drones every time they cycle.

That is plainly the performance problem being optimised.

It's been stated elsewhere, but the point is that the only viable solution is a mechanic for sov battles that encourages MULTIPLE, SIMULTANEOUS battles to occur across multiple systems. If the mechanic requires 5 victories in 5 systems then current blob tactics are no longer viable; or at least not until the average null entity gets 5x larger.

What would such a mechanic look like? I have no clue. But presumabky paid game designers should be able to come up with SOMEthing. Constellation control hubs or something, I dunno. Regardless, the point is not to gimp a large fleet thru artificial penalties or weird stacking mechanics. If you want to blob, blob away. The point is to change sov mechanics so that the entity with five smaller fleets wins the strategic victory over the giant blob fleet every time, at least when it comes to the fights people care about (sov/ownership stuff).

Concentration of force at a weak point is the single most viable and commonly used military tactic.

The EvE universe should be different why?

Of course the SENSIBLE solution would be allow the grouping of omnis:

a) making it easier for the players

b) with clever coding letting the server treat them as a single unit