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At least this move will greatly cut time wasted on industry rather than PVP.

It also goes a long way to equalize play and make EVE more fun. Previously too much advantage was given to players and corps who had no other life but EVE. Now players who simply keep their subscription alive can compete on nearly equal footing.

The only big thing really remaining undone is for CCP to smarten up and create a 30-365 day training queue.

Then just anyone can drop in to PVP at anytime without all the silly groundwork EVE has traditionally required.

I understand that slots are now infinite, although there will be some cost scaling mechanism(can't comment on that until devblog).

What i'm trying to understand is the idea of moving to a BPC focused EVE, and needing to keep BPO's(especially expensive ones, BS and above) safe.

I'm sure there are quite a few pos's in empire and low sec systems with stations lacking those research facilities, but utilising the office space to spread it around. After the changes the office availability to achieve the same thing will be reduced.

Do you expect an issue with lack of Corp offices in these stations with research facilities, due to people "flying around". Or is the intention for those that cannot get offices, to be moving BPO's into personal hangers, not accessible to the entire corp?

Quoting to get a Dev response to MDD(Greyscale is likely sleeping, he sleeps right?). 24 Offices per station, somewhere between 2 and 32 NPC stations with lab type(copy/me/te) facilities in a region(low, high, NPC null). The ability to research as a corporation(regardless of what Querns/Weaselior say) is important to industrial corps. We need to have corp offices to share/lock down blueprints. These limited stations, even with unlimited slots, will very likely fill their office slots before corps that were previously researching remotely(spread out over all over New Eden with their POS's) are forced to relocate to these specific stations to protect their corp assets(BPO's) and time investments in research.


Separate from the above:

So besides the brief flare-up of gankers along routes looking for people moving BPO's to one of these stations until they are moved and the brief but ultimately fruitless increase in highsec wardec's from people who are not very swift who think Indy corps will be keeping BPO's at their POS's I'm not sure how this is creating content. You'll be making solo indy folks, and a few of the corps that can get offices pay a new highsec penalty(congestion) tax(more info in next blog) but you've made their remote research/copy POS's pointless so it is a wash cost-wise because why fuel a POS and risk that now if slots are going to be unlimited? Unless some crazy bonuses are applied to corp owned slots(who knows, maybe!). I don't see the point of running a 500m Isk/month tower(s).

So maybe new folks will start making things until they realize the profit margin sucks, but corps that put a lot of time and effort into BPO's and remote research/copy/production POS's(and don't live in an owned station in the blue donut) are being annoyed out of a playstyle.

On the whole, these changes seem to simplify the whole process.

My question is what happens to research jobs in progress when the summer expansion takes effect?

Will these jobs complete as per existing conditions or will I have to take some action (for example, moving the BPO to the POS) to finish these jobs? I would assume that all pre-loaded jobs would simply complete as per the conditions that existed at the time the job was loaded, but confirmation would be helpful.

It won't be after the change. The BPO will need to be physically present at the POS it is being used at. (Source: first blog).

So the BPO will be at risk from the time the POS is reinforced, until the time the BPO is secured in a station or the POS attackers are defeated. If you decide to keep the BPO in the POS and defend it, it is at risk there if you fail to defend the POS. If you decide to transport the BPO out of the POS and to the station, it is at risk while in transport.

I expect BPOs under a billion will regularly be located in POSes and BPOs over a billion will mostly never leave empire stations, the exception being those sovereign nullsec alliances that (rightly or wrongly) consider their stations 100% safe.

Obviously reading comprehension is not your strong point. No, you can choose to put a BPO in a POS, but there is no requirement now that copying time is being reduced. Copy BPO in station somewhere cheap -> Put Copy in POS -> Manufacture Item. Was that so hard to understand ?

First question then a rant.

With wastage being removed will an invented BPC's require more ore less minerals then before? I read through the blog 3 times but i couldn't find any specific reference to how they plan to solve the "extra materials" that don't currently have wastage values. If a -4 does get extra wastage this could be a considerable buff to some lower waste BPO's like modules that now have wastage through inventing where there was none before. Please clarify

Second, a request for clarification. Can CCP/Dev please give us specific levels that we need to obtain before the expansion to get "Perfect" again on low ME BPO's (if they don't intend to change them). I don't mind training an extra x levels to get my T2 component to translate to perfect after the patch while x levels doesn't take weeks. Reading the comments in this post there are a lot of people that are worried their perfect BPO's are now going to all of a sudden turn bad overnight. Just clarify what we will need to reach before the patch hits and everyone will be happy(or those that can be made happy) on that front.

./rant
With all the time and investment CCP is doing to make it easier for people to get into industry it strikes me odd that you would buff T2 BPO's by any % (lets face it 1% in eve is still a pretty sizable buff). Its a grandfathered mechanic that should of been worked out of the game shortly after its replacement was introduced. I have no hate for those who have T2 BPO's but in a sandbox game ownership of unobtainable item should not guarantee ones ability to compete in a market, or produce for your own corp.

The health of any mechanic in a sandbox game relies on being balanced to everyone with the corresponding skills and reasonably obtainable gates. The thing that sets people apart in a sandbox game are the personal skills out of the game that make them smarter/faster/craftier/etc then equally in game skilled people. Almost all of eves other systems are balanced in that such way, quite perfectly I might add. Someone in a rifter can stomp someone in a daredevil if he know how to pvp better, that's how a good sandbox mechanic works. It just a sad state of affairs that in a game where CCP puts so much work into balancing these such system, that they're still holding onto this one in fear of what ripples they might cause in their 2% player base that own these.

*PS* before someone chimes in that T2 BPO's are obtainable we have to do a reality check. Paying 10 years of an items profit in price over invention to get access to a single BPO is not obtainable. I can think of 10 things that would make a larger return on investment.

Changes look solid, very intuitive. Far and away better than the existing system.

I have a few T2 BPOS, one of them is the Damnation BPO, anecdotally I can confirm the market is almost entirely 100% BPO driven. I know this, because the market, historically speaking, is absolutely terrible. You have low volume, high build costs terrible (sometimes negative) margins even at the BPO ME level. There are scores of categories of items to invent in EVE, you're not missing much. I'm not trying to divert people away from inventing in the market, it really is that bad.

The people calling for the removal of T2 BPOs are being unrealistic, the fact of the matter is there is no good way to remove T2 BPOs from the game.

Frankly I think there should be a mechanic for people to get T2 BPOs, have it be an absolutely infinitesimal chance (scaled properly to prevent over saturating the market) per invention job. like a 1/(500K+x) chance or something for example. That way the people who continually invent items, arguably those who most deserve bpos, have a better chance of getting them.

But whatever the case, the chances as presented are a good step in the right direction for all of industry. Good work CCP, I honestly wasn't sure if I'd ever see the day of revamped industry, and it's looking good.

Might want to not buff the T2 BPO copy time too much though yeah, but do keep it reasonable.

Would you care to explain how you believe this is true? Because my & other people's understanding of the dev blogs do not support that statement.

MDD

No, you won't.