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Burn Jita: any effect on your market activities?

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Far Wanderer
ACGM Acquisitions
#1 - 2014-04-26 08:16:38 UTC
As the subject line: is the Burn Jita event having any effect on your market activities?

It's having no effect on mine that I am aware of.

Though it might be interesting if a Burn Dodixie occurred, since I operate one region over and I might cloak up and grab some popcorn to watch the show.

Anywhoo...

I really am wasting my breath though, when you can avoid questions from Hexxx and RAW23 like that you must have some seriously devoted investors. --Elizabeth Norn

Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#2 - 2014-04-26 09:00:32 UTC
I have supply line issues.

People just do not trust any of my courier contracts, even the ones that are not traps. I'm trying to ship some Interceptors to a place that they will sell (contiguous high, no hubs in route), and even paying 1m/jump I'm not getting takers on a <500m collateral.

Likewise I am struggling to outsource moving the small stuff that I region trade, and I can't get tech 2 components where they are needed.


The other issue, of course, is that I am paying more attention to the BJ than to the building/trading work.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-04-26 09:17:17 UTC
ship prices should get higher, some modules too

won't affect me personally

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-04-26 09:37:22 UTC
I considered not undocking my freighter for the daily manufacturing resupply run.
Then i remembered i don't go within 2 regions of jita.

Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85

Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#5 - 2014-04-26 09:44:45 UTC
After a couple of false starts, I managed to offload a few hundred Catalysts and fittings I bought a while back, profits won't be as good as last year when I was selling fitted Catalysts for 5-10m a pop in packs of 10, but it's a lot less effort. All my other trade in Jita grinds to a halt though.
Obunagawe
#6 - 2014-04-26 10:36:44 UTC
Difficult to log in.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#7 - 2014-04-26 10:44:32 UTC
Sales are a bit slow but who cares? I was sitting in my training clone in Jita anyway so hopped into a pod killing Atron. Unfortunately, my security status is low due to vicious persecution by the lowsec rozzers. A bit difficult to catch pods when you only have ten seconds before the faction whatsits arrive.

So I sat on the Perimeter gate, experimenting as a flashy yellow with loads of players waiting. Four times I was driven away by the faction police before I was even locked. Surprised that no one wanted to have a go.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.

Marcus Iunius Brutus
Hoborg Labs
#8 - 2014-04-26 14:14:32 UTC
I bought materials in advance for my production lines.
The only disruption is that my finished goods wait in my production system to be delivered after Party in Jita is over :)
Abidal Trekt
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-04-26 15:55:57 UTC
Burn Jita: The question isn't "what are we going to do," the question is "what aren't we going to do"?
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-04-26 16:14:55 UTC
Yes, purely positive.

It's like the old Hulkageddon days, and previous Burn Jita's... you stock up ahead, and sell at a profit.

Imagine that.

Blink

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )

Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#11 - 2014-04-26 23:39:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Far Wanderer wrote:
As the subject line: is the Burn Jita event having any effect on your market activities?

I moved my primary market & industry alt 32 jumps from Jita, where he is grinding the last few tenths standing for refining, which may be somewhat pointless after the summer expansion.

Overall it hasn't been a good month for me. The month began with a wardec, and market prices seem to be tumbling on all but PLEX.

Now Burn Jita means another lost weekend. I've got several billion in materials I'm waiting to move out, plus orders that are unlikely to be filled for a week.

On the bright side, my alt is making ISK on missions (like all my alts, my market & industry alt is combat-capable).
Michael Bloomberg
Association of Apocrypha Magnetohydrodynamics
#12 - 2014-04-27 02:52:06 UTC
Managed to double my outgoing supply somehow. People are buying, station trading is going on as normal. If anything I have shown marked profits. I can't resupply this weekend, but thinking ahead allowed me to secure enough goods on station to last my orders through the weekend. All is fine inside station.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-04-27 17:25:13 UTC
In Jita I buy only, but never on weekends because prices are almost always higher.

So, no effect whatsoever.

If It goes on past Monday, I might have some small supply issues, but I keep 2-3 weeks of stock on all items anyway because I can't be arsed to do frequent supply runs.

Finally, I don't use freighters/orcas and, out of habit, I fly in highsec as if I were in lowsec, so I'm not the best of targets.

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HeXxploiT
Doomheim
#14 - 2014-04-27 19:27:37 UTC
Minimal. Freighter and fuel prices don't even rise enough to warrant a short term investment however I can temporarily raise the prices on some market items such as fuel blocks on popular lowsec supply routes capitalizing upon those who didn't stock up ahead of time. Funny enough goons have been buying at inflated prices as much as anyone.

I suppose neophytes/new players and low end traders would probably be effected the most significantly as they are caught off guard.

Burn Jita for all intents & purposes is sort of a non-event although I suppose the entertainment value is worth something.
Far Wanderer
ACGM Acquisitions
#15 - 2014-04-27 22:32:15 UTC
HeXxploiT wrote:
Burn Jita for all intents & purposes is sort of a non-event although I suppose the entertainment value is worth something.
i like to read the killmails linked to isjitaburning.com. Man I can't believe the lists of stuff in some of those freighters. It's like Christmas times a thousand.

I really am wasting my breath though, when you can avoid questions from Hexxx and RAW23 like that you must have some seriously devoted investors. --Elizabeth Norn

HeXxploiT
Doomheim
#16 - 2014-04-27 23:01:34 UTC
Far Wanderer wrote:
HeXxploiT wrote:
Burn Jita for all intents & purposes is sort of a non-event although I suppose the entertainment value is worth something.
i like to read the killmails linked to isjitaburning.com. Man I can't believe the lists of stuff in some of those freighters. It's like Christmas times a thousand.


True, but by the time all is said and done all the losses will have a negligible effect on the market. All the losses combined will amount to less than the individual wealth of many eve players and there are single ships in game that would sell for more than all these combined losses. All the asset losses combined will come out to about the value of the assets that pass through jita in 30 minutes of a normal day.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#17 - 2014-04-28 05:02:39 UTC
HeXxploiT wrote:

True, but by the time all is said and done all the losses will have a negligible effect on the market. All the losses combined will amount to less than the individual wealth of many eve players and there are single ships in game that would sell for more than all these combined losses. All the asset losses combined will come out to about the value of the assets that pass through jita in 30 minutes of a normal day.


I would not be surprised if there are some lingering effects in areas of the market.

Consider for instance the New Order. We have inflicted about twice the damage of the present Burn Jita spread over a significant timeframe. However, our actions have almost ended highsec Mackinaw and Hulk use in highsec ice systems - often I need to check as many as ten systems to find one of those exhumers, whereas you used to see 5-10 in each system on average. They still exist but they are rare.

If Goons made Burn Jita semi-permanent, I think that in the short to medium term a new trade hub would replace it. However, the strategic aims of BJ aren't to disrupt empire trade, but instead to keep Goon line members interested in the game - as such it is unlikely to continue in the medium term.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#18 - 2014-04-28 06:03:05 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:


Consider for instance the New Order. We have inflicted about twice the damage of the present Burn Jita spread over a significant timeframe. However, our actions have almost ended highsec Mackinaw and Hulk use in highsec ice systems - often I need to check as many as ten systems to find one of those exhumers, whereas you used to see 5-10 in each system on average. They still exist but they are rare.


Are you sure it wasn't the ice belt nerf?
BrutalButFair
Fleet of the Damned
#19 - 2014-04-28 15:33:12 UTC
Made a shitton of isk in other market hubs. Thnx CFC Twisted
Chuk Ormand
Alternative Solutions Corporation
#20 - 2014-04-28 18:07:20 UTC
I was bored Saturday night so I put an alt of mine's clone in a Itty5 loaded with 1 piece of trit. He flew in and out of Jita and he couldn't get ganked if he tried. My main character was following him, hoping for a kill right to have some fun. And.........I thought station trading was boring...........YAWN!!!! Burn Jita? I didn't even see any smoke. -chuk
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