Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Here is an rattlesnake that your customers won't despise you for. The proposed changes are totally unnecessary, very drastic and waste your customers time and money, and force them to train for other more effective ships.

All the snake needs are more high/mid/low slots to come in-line.

RATTLESNAKE

Gallente Battleship Bonus:
10% drone damage and hitpoints

Caldari Battleship Bonus:
4% bonus to all shield resistances

Role Bonus:
50% bonus to Cruise missile and Torpedo max velocity


Slot layout: 6H, 8(+1)M, 6L; 0 turrets, 5 launchers(+1)
Fittings: 10000 PWG, 710 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 12750 / 8940(-358) / 9960
Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 5350(+38) / 1154000ms / 4.59
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 94 / .128 / 99300000 / 18.45s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125 / 400
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 75km / 100 / 7
Sensor strength: 30
Signature radius: 450(-10)

At last, a response.

I agree that a shield rattlesnake is (a little) stronger than a shield navy dominix. In counterpoint, the shield navy dominix is putting out something like 1800dps, which I think we can agree is probably worth the little extra tanking risk it runs.

When we compare a shield rattlesnake to an armour dominix, the difference becomes less clear.

The fact that a rattlesnake "can carry a neut" and "can almost achieve the same damage with implants and drugs" seems to me to be a somewhat weak endorsement of its intended fearsome pirate ship persona.

The Vindicator and Bhaalgorn are really bad news to be anywhere near. A Machariel is really bad news if you let it out of scram range.

In a (small) fleet engagement, a rattlesnake will be on the list of ships to kill, but nowhere near the top. It's just not dangerous enough. My view is that the dev team have been lazy. They know that this ship is lacklustre, but can't be bothered to change it now.

Damn shame.

With Cruise Missiles, the benefit is that less shots are "in the air" before the first impact.
Comes into play when the rats repair themselves or you don't know how many shots you need, and they are out at a great distance.
If you fire two more shots, while the first one kills, that's two shots wasted.
But who cares about sniping on a tanky ship when Gardes have an effective range of (below?) 50km!

Link and Picture?

1. Start EVE.
2. Login.
3. Select character to login with.
4. Open Market window.
5. Search on "Gecko" or drill down to Drones / Combat Drones / Heavy Attack Drones / Faction & Storyline -> Gecko.
6. Click on the info button.
7. Type one handed...

0.53 tracking. It's definitely a heavy drone and not a fighter.

Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be a Tournament prize.


edit: tracking is 0.53, not 0.59.

mm.. omni damage and omni tanked .. well mainly structure tanked anyway .. faster and better tracker than ogre .mm..
odd

hmm I almost agree with you vis-a-vis damage projection, but there is no sentry range bonus so that projected damage looks limited to missiles. Waiting for combat drones to arrive cannot reasonably be classified as "projecting damage".

Of course there are already navy ships that project damage *awesomely*, the navy raven being one.

So if we're going to look for a reason to fly a pirate rattlesnake over a mere navy battleship the reasons for doing so start to get thin on the ground.

I too am sceptical of the nightmare but I'm waiting to see. I do actually often use an AB to help in tanking in skirmish pvp so part of me believes it may work in some cases.

As for the reasonableness of my post, please do take a look back through the last 4 pages of the thread and examine my posts. I try to be reasonable and reasoned. If you see anything that falls below that standard please do bring it to my attention.

Velocity is just a range bonus. Analogous in just about every way to an optimal bonus. The other exremely minor benefit it offers is useless to instant hitting turrets.

The only semi-limited thinking here is coming from you, Rod, in your attempts to troll. As no one is taking you even a little seriously now, you should probably just go play quietly out of the way while people actually interested in discussing the changes talk.

Rod, You have not had anything new to contribute in untold pages, because you keep causing them to be pruned about a dozen at a time. This has actually cost valuable comments as we tried to ignore your incessant and useless bleating. You are the only person here looking foolish, and it is pretty obvious that you are doing so intentionally.

Many of us have attempted to discuss the changes with you, even ignoring your childish attention seeking antics to try and find some meat in your blatherings, as sometimes even a blind pig finds an acorn. You arent even trying to enter into the discussion though, just disrupt it with offensive and abusive name calling and idiotic jibberings like a toddler squatting in a pile of its own excrement with a big smile.

Its obvious you have little skill at the game, or thats just another part of your troll. You show small grasp of even basic game concepts, and seem to feel entitled as if you actually owned a Rattlesnake and were being forced into accepting a factory recall. Did you perchance purchase that character and ship rather than training and earning the old fashioned way? Is that why you feel so cheated and abused? I cant think of anything else other than being a hysterionic high functioning autistic 6 year old that you would behave that way.

That Gecko is awesome! These things are going to be tough as nails...!
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CCP Rise, can you please look into launcher symmetry on the Rattlesnake? (just remove the bottommost turrets so we end up with the 5th on the top).