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New Omni nerf- why exactly was it needed? (CCP: to fix lag)

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King Fu Hostile
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#1 - 2014-04-28 11:38:43 UTC  |  Edited by: King Fu Hostile
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Omnidirectional tracking link cycle time has been increased to 30 seconds. Capacitor use per cycle remains unchanged.


30 seconds, srsly CCP?

Why even have it scripted anymore?

EDIT: CCP Explorer explained that this was done for server performance reasons.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4522818#post4522818
Victor Andall
#2 - 2014-04-28 11:41:58 UTC
Posting in terrible soon to be threadnaught stealth nerf highsec afk cloaking grr Goons unban Erotica1 thread

I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?

19.08.2014 - Dinsdale gets slammed by CCP Falcon. Never forget.
King Fu Hostile
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#3 - 2014-04-28 11:43:34 UTC
Great post m8
Victor Andall
#4 - 2014-04-28 11:48:06 UTC
Doesn't hold a candle to yours though.

No post ever will.

They should have it engraved upon the monument in Iceland.

I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?

19.08.2014 - Dinsdale gets slammed by CCP Falcon. Never forget.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-04-28 11:50:01 UTC
meh ... I script to avoid stacking penalties, never change them on the fly.

though TBH I fly a Domi when using drones so omni matters less

Isn't 30 seconds also the reload time on RHML ? maybe the new server tick is 30 seconds Shocked
King Fu Hostile
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#6 - 2014-04-28 11:51:02 UTC
They tripled the cycle time of Omnidirectional Tracking Links, 30 seconds is long enough to prevent swapping scripts in combat. Now I'd like to know if the already nerfed Omnis were so overpowered that they had to be made even worse.

Cavalira
Habemus
#7 - 2014-04-28 11:54:46 UTC
Victor Andall wrote:
Posting in terrible soon to be threadnaught stealth nerf highsec afk cloaking grr Goons unban Erotica1 thread


Just stop posting. You're awful at it.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#8 - 2014-04-28 11:55:05 UTC
Ooh. ⅓ the capacitor draw. Now there's a nerf that really kicks people in the 'nads. Wait what?
King Fu Hostile
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#9 - 2014-04-28 11:57:41 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Ooh. ⅓ the capacitor draw. Now there's a nerf that really kicks people in the 'nads. Wait what?


There are no fits where the absolutely neglible cap draw of an Omni makes any kind of difference whatsoever
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#10 - 2014-04-28 11:58:14 UTC
King Fu Hostile wrote:
They tripled the cycle time of Omnidirectional Tracking Links, 30 seconds is long enough to prevent swapping scripts in combat. Now I'd like to know if the already nerfed Omnis were so overpowered that they had to be made even worse.



Triple cycle time means 1/3 cap usage.

Cheer up!

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#11 - 2014-04-28 12:00:42 UTC
I wish there was some way to make isk out of duplicate ship toasts

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Sturmwolke
#12 - 2014-04-28 12:10:17 UTC
Minor nerf if they're actively swapping scripts. It'll be damn annoying to wait 30sec before you can swap.
Cap draw isn't an issue for omnis.
Vorago Ignius
Chasm of Liberty
#13 - 2014-04-28 12:11:06 UTC
i guess this is more serious to ships that only use one instead of 3 omnis, because on those with 3, you will be using the same scripts most of the time any way.

so i'll take that less cap draw, thank you.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#14 - 2014-04-28 12:26:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Victor Andall wrote:
Posting in terrible soon to be threadnaught stealth nerf highsec afk cloaking grr Goons unban Erotica1 thread


Yep, you see, omnidirectional links that work like other tracking computers use cap. New players have poor cap skills. Most new players also play in high sec, therefor Omnis using cap is a DIRECT nerf to high sec.

Thank you for allowing me this opportunity to practice my Dinsdalian logic. Twisted
Thats OK
Schmizle
#15 - 2014-04-28 12:41:32 UTC
30 seconds? Well that's just silly.
As if the previous nerf was not bad enough.
afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2014-04-28 12:46:42 UTC
I'm just glad they fixed everything else and finally this scourge is eliminated.

Blink
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#17 - 2014-04-28 13:32:03 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Ooh. ⅓ the capacitor draw. Now there's a nerf that really kicks people in the 'nads. Wait what?


TBH the capacitor draw was a zero issue prior to the nerf. This is more like a poor aatempt at a appology from CCP to say yea we know your taking up the poop shute but hey look we cut the cap use in half.

This change will certainly stop me from swapping scripts mid fight. Its like they are trying to kill drone play.
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#18 - 2014-04-28 13:42:07 UTC
King Fu Hostile wrote:
Quote:
Omnidirectional tracking link cycle time has been increased to 30 seconds. Capacitor use per cycle remains unchanged.


30 seconds, srsly CCP?

Why even have it scripted anymore?



CCP hates high sec.
Pretty simple answer.
Just look at the total set of changes being inflicted on high sec.
They demonstrate the contempt CCP has for the largest segment of its player base (soon to not be its largest segment).

Rubicon was very aptly named.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#19 - 2014-04-28 13:44:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
CCP hates high sec.
Pretty simple answer.
Yes, how awful that they made a change that only affects modules used in highsec and nowhere else.


Wait, what (again)?

Quote:
Just look at the total set of changes being inflicted on high sec.
You mean those two highsec-specific changes that will make life there a whole lot easier? Or are you just massively overestimating how many people use omnilinks?
King Fu Hostile
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#20 - 2014-04-28 13:47:42 UTC
Dinsdale wtf
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