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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-04-28 00:49:17 UTC
So to be honest I think I've seen this come up before. I did some quick searches but did not get any hits on the forums so I figured I would ask here.

Deal is, there is this k162 in our home that has long outlived its timer. It was EOL over 30 hours ago. As of about 30min after downtime the WH was still present on grid (I just happened to warp to the bookmark as I was scanning sigs). But at the same time there is no signature for it. IE if I had deleted the bookmark I would never know it was still around.

As of right now I just warped to it again and it is still there, even though there is no signature for it.

I'm guessing it is more of a visual bug and will probably disappear at the next downtime. But it is quite odd.
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#2 - 2014-04-28 00:56:36 UTC
Never ran into that one before - I've ran into the opposite scenario 1-2 times before where theres a WH sig (not just catching it at the wrong moment as it expires) but nothing visually on grid when you warp there.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-04-28 01:33:58 UTC
So just for fun I took an extra throwaway scan alt and warped to the WH. When I tried to jump I would get a message that the wormhole has collapsed. So I am guessing visual bug or something.
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
#4 - 2014-04-28 01:34:30 UTC
Are you able to jump through it?

I've had similar experiences, but everytime I was unable to actually jump through the wormhole in question.
Kireitsugu Secheh
Les chips electriques
#5 - 2014-04-28 05:47:09 UTC
Someone needs his cache cleaned

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Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox
#6 - 2014-04-28 06:09:04 UTC
A sleeper invasion is about to come pouring out of that wormhole.

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Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#7 - 2014-04-28 09:01:29 UTC
Seems to be happening a lot more lately.

After petitioning, a GM asked me and corp members to put in a bug report, as it should despawn. I would advise to do the same.

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Necharo Rackham
The Red Circle Inc.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#8 - 2014-04-28 12:11:34 UTC
Kireitsugu Secheh wrote:
Someone needs his cache cleaned


We've had the same thing - albeit a few months ago - which was seen by multiple people, so it definitely isn't just this.

We also had a one way wormhole at some point leading up to the wormhole+nosig - could be jumped out of, but not back in. I reported it as a bug and was told they were unable to reproduce it.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-04-28 13:36:42 UTC
It despawned after the next DT.
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#10 - 2014-04-28 17:01:53 UTC
Seraph Essael wrote:
Seems to be happening a lot more lately.

After petitioning, a GM asked me and corp members to put in a bug report, as it should despawn. I would advise to do the same.


I'd agree. I've seen some weird delays in signatures respawning and other shenanigans.
RcTamiya Leontis
Magister Mortalis.
#11 - 2014-04-29 11:27:02 UTC  |  Edited by: RcTamiya Leontis
Stuff like this happens very often when wormholes collapse during downtimes

If you want a proof for that, chainroll wormholes until the new opened wh is collapsing during DT with a great chance, observe and laugh :D
I don't know if that's an actual exploit, however is very funny to see what kind of glitches can happen to a wh collapsing during DT

So far:

- reopening at the same location into a new system

- bugged wormhole without a probesignature, stays until downtime, can be jumped through but makes you stuck in jumpanimation (however it can only be fixxed with relogging makes you end up several AU away from the "wormhole"), sidenote here -> you get invincible while beeing stuck but can't itneract with the enviroment either, however you can still get scanned down

- wormhole without probesignature on both sides but working as a normal wormhole and infinite mass ( my favourite ....)

- wormhole without probe signature which will collapse when you try to jump through

- if it was your static -> 2 statics spawn

To be continued ....
Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#12 - 2014-04-29 12:32:33 UTC
RcTamiya Leontis wrote:
bugged wormhole without a probesignature, stays until downtime, can be jumped through but makes you stuck in jumpanimation (however it can only be fixxed with relogging makes you end up several AU away from the "wormhole"), sidenote here -> you get invincible while beeing stuck but can't itneract with the enviroment either, however you can still get scanned down

This happened to a corp member when it happened to us... He couldn't do anything and had to relog which did let him warp off, when he logged back in however he landed directly on top of me back at the hole but was able to warp off...

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
RcTamiya Leontis
Magister Mortalis.
#13 - 2014-04-29 13:16:59 UTC
Seraph Essael wrote:
RcTamiya Leontis wrote:
bugged wormhole without a probesignature, stays until downtime, can be jumped through but makes you stuck in jumpanimation (however it can only be fixxed with relogging makes you end up several AU away from the "wormhole"), sidenote here -> you get invincible while beeing stuck but can't itneract with the enviroment either, however you can still get scanned down

This happened to a corp member when it happened to us... He couldn't do anything and had to relog which did let him warp off, when he logged back in however he landed directly on top of me back at the hole but was able to warp off...



Sadly a wormhole glitched like that can be used for several exploist and should be fixxed ( not naming any here in public as they have a relevant impact for pvp issues )

Things like that, known for years, prove that CCP doesn't care as much as needed about wspace (hopefully changes with CSM?)
Necharo Rackham
The Red Circle Inc.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#14 - 2014-04-29 13:26:50 UTC
Seraph Essael wrote:

This happened to a corp member when it happened to us... He couldn't do anything and had to relog which did let him warp off, when he logged back in however he landed directly on top of me back at the hole but was able to warp off...


... and thats how he got into Jove space.