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[No-Local News] - The Siege of J115933

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MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-04-26 20:20:47 UTC
Link to the source article.


For everyone interested in how the Goon eviction went down, from my perspective.

The Siege of J115933
At some point last weekend, Dmitry decided that we were going to invade and evict this goon corporation, Vasilkovsky Interstellar. Let’s just say: because goons. Anyway I volunteered to stay as a scout in system for the duration. I figured it might be interesting. What I found while I watched them was fairly bland. Now granted, I’m only one man. I wasn’t scouting them 23/7, but there didn’t seem to be much to see. There were only two towers. They were both anchored on the same planet, and that was on the far side of their system. They were Gallente, one medium and one large. The large had hardeners, points, and ECM but no guns or neuts. The medium just had points, medium blasters (90km activation) and a single neut. I was fairly appalled that they didn’t have more complete setups on their towers, and I began to think about how exactly the attack would go down.

They lived in a C5 pulsar with a C3 static. That’s great if you like shield caps, and allows for easy access to k-space since C3’s have only K-statics. It also meant that we were guaranteed to have a fairly direct route into the system when we invaded. It would be hard to bring caps, but given their tower defenses that didn’t seem necessary. I’d noticed a nag being parked at the medium tower and a couple chimeras at the large. I figured that we would bring shield Ishtars (we did) and that they’d be able to put enough DPS onto the field to give a serious fight to the caps.

For the next week there wasn’t really that much to see. They were running PI, occasionally scanning down their chain or running home sites. Pretty standard farmer stuff. I just kept it all logged and worked in the background to get the gears in motion. Plans were set for the initial attack to be mid-day on Friday. Over that week I noticed that there were a few capital pilots that would come on. I watched a few characters run PI, but for the most part the system was fairly quiet. I was never challenged on any holes in their chain, and there was plenty of time to fly to the far side of the system and drop probes while nobody was online. I’d scan their chain down real quick, make some bookmarks, and then park back up in my various perches for watching and noting characters and ships.

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.

MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-04-26 20:21:09 UTC  |  Edited by: MooMooDachshundCow
When the invasion finally happened, we decided to use our SHAC Ishtar fleet. This was excellent in the pulsar and allowed for great mobility, which was crucial. We invaded midday on Friday and took control over the static with a broadsword while the Ishtars got down to business. Eventually, the sieged forces responded. We had not managed to complete bubbling their POS, and so they had warped their capitals out and formed a fleet. This resulted in a group of four Chimeras landing on the static. The carriers put up their cap chain and dropped sentries. Our fleet took warp back to our staging tower. We repositioned and warped back to their main tower. At this point they warped their 4 chimeras to their main tower and engaged out Ishtars.

So, as an interesting relevant side-note, the main tower had ECM, but it never went off. Similarly with the medium tower which had guns and neuts, none of which every engaged us. Clearly there was some sort of problem with the POS settings or something that made the POS so flaccid, but regardless of what the reason, this was a major tactical mistake on their part. I think they’ve commented about us having a spy or something do this sabotage. This would be possible, but I know of no spies used in this operation, for the record.

Back to the fight at hand, their chimeras were using remote capacitor and reps as they slow boated through some bubbles near their tower. This was magnified by the fact that this system was a C5 pulsar which, for the uninitiated gives them another 85% more shield HP, +85% to signature, +85% to targeting range, -41% to cap recharge, and -34% to armor resists. This meant that their carrier ball tactic was going to be very hard to break. Luckily we had already bat-phoned reinforcements, which began to arrive around this time. Dropbears were some of the first to show up in a glorious shield fleet of only the bravest of newbies. There were also quite a few people from S.Q.U.A.I.D.S., Quebec United Legion, Red Coat Conspiracy, TDSIN, Sky Fighters and even Karen Galeo from Infinite Anarchy and CSM 9 candidacy. At the peak of the fight there were around 75 in fleet on our side, and perhaps 15 goons, though 6 of them were capitals. The 2 Naglfars landed in the middle of the fight. They were Artillery fit though, and so at close range their wasn’t too much chance for them to hit. They had loki support, but it came under heavy sentry fire and were lost. We also broke their remote rep chain by bumping the carriers back into their own POS shields. This was effective, and we killed 2 carriers and a Nag. The second Nag managed to warp out when there was some confusion about pointing, I guess. Similarly the other 2 carriers would escape to log off.

At the end of the fight, there was some “confusion” on the part of Sky Fighters as to who was blue to who. Once the goons were off the field, they immediately started to primary members of Ragnarok and other groups. Despite their receiving reps from logi there were several losses. Ragnarok issued the warpout order rather than fight someone we had invited. In the aftermath, apparently there was a diplo channel that people were supposed to join to be set blue by Sky. I don’t know how Karen and Osiris hadn’t been put in there. I hadn’t heard anything about this channel personally, though in this fight I was primarily a cloaky scout, so I wasn’t targetable anyway. Regardless, that happened and then most of the Coalition left back out the way they had came.

For the next couple of days, there wasn’t much activity in the system. We were maintaining hole control, which for us meant spreading Ishtars and logi around the static, rolling any other connections, and having combat probes out constantly. This actually turned out to be a fairly good tactic since we did manage to scan an orca that was cloaked in space. It would appear that I had scanned it down as it logged back in, because when I warped the fleet to the Orca, there was nothing in space. Then the Orca was decloaked by the incoming fleet. Turned out to be worth 2.4b isk because it had a couple of lokis in the hold. A very fortunately timed scan. Bob be praised.

Nothing else too exciting would come for awhile. There were a couple of people self-destructing ships in their towers. Nothing could really be done of that. When it came time for the towers to come out of reinforcement, we had brought in a couple of Naglfars of our own, and the towers went down without much fuss. Turned out there was a Chimera in one of the SMA’s, so that was a bonus. Plus we had a guy from my corp, Gustavo the Mexican Bear, who decided to go full potato and try to steal loot from the operation in his dramiel. Poor guy didn’t know about loot logs. He got podded for that and a list of other sins he’d made against us, but that’s a whole separate story. Tried to get his alt to steal his stuff out of Nova real quick, but we pulled his roles and changed passwords faster than he could wake up in a med clone. He should have known better than to lie to our faces. Oh well.
There was also an incident where Quebec United Legion came in through the C3 static with a fleet of Gilas and Tengus. Caught our hole control fleet sleeping and got a couple of kills. We reformed and warped back to the hole with our Ishtars, Naglfars, and new Chimera. A couple of their ships got blapped by our Bouncers. We lost eki when he accidentally hit approach instead of target or something. That was no biggie since I was secondary FC. I just called targets and eventually they went back through their hole. I’m not sure exactly why they came back to shoot at us. They claimed that they had a scanning frig get shot at by someone from our coalition, but when we asked for a km, they said that he had survived. Apparently this was justification enough for an attack. I don’t really mind though, since this was just more content by my standards. Better than just staring at a wormhole.

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.

MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-04-26 20:22:01 UTC
Anyway, the evac from the hole was uneventful. There would be a threadnaught on the forums about the whole thing that anyone can read. All in all, the Goons in this hole showed up with a good fight, and I respect them for that much. I find it rather humorous that there is a place in Eve where a Goon will get blobbed, rather than be the blob. Certainly these characters in particular have been in wormholes for awhile, and have issued their intent to stay. I say good fight to you then. It’s not personal. It’s all just a game in the end anyway. If some people want to say Grr Goons, then they’re allowed. I just hope that VINTR stays around so we can shoot at each other again sometime. Good fight guys, don’t mind the blob.

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.

RudinV
Sons Of Mother's Friend
Can i bring my Drake...
#4 - 2014-04-26 21:01:49 UTC
Soz man but this is rly hard to read...
MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-04-26 21:10:33 UTC
RudinV wrote:
Soz man but this is rly hard to read...


Это лучше, товарищ?

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.

thetwilitehour
Caldari Provisions
#6 - 2014-04-27 01:52:54 UTC
TLDR : We blobbed goons, as a result our alliance fell apart, here have 25000 words on the subject.
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#7 - 2014-04-27 02:31:33 UTC
Tried to be relevant WH alliance, killed self instead

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#8 - 2014-04-27 05:57:25 UTC
To many people, the only blue on blue action they get is the friction of their testes rubbing together.
Blumpkin Fairy
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2014-04-27 13:05:19 UTC
Wow, this only happened like 1 month ago.

Seriously, whothefuck cares now?
MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-04-27 23:34:11 UTC
Blumpkin Fairy wrote:
Wow, this only happened like 1 month ago.

Seriously, whothefuck cares now?


You're right, but I was busy quitting Ragnarok, so I didn't get the article out in a timely manner. Anyway, it's mostly just to chronicle what goes on for us, and to give outsiders a peek into wormhole life. I'm not a "breaking news" reporter on no-local, but more of a colorful editorial.

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.

Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#11 - 2014-04-28 00:48:15 UTC
Someone tryhards to be ~*spacerelevant*~, what else is new?

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#12 - 2014-04-28 03:23:27 UTC
MooMooDachshundCow wrote:
peek into wormhole life.


That's misleading...
Sith1s Spectre
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2014-04-28 03:36:50 UTC
MooMooDachshundCow wrote:


We also broke their remote rep chain by bumping the carriers back into their own POS shields. This was effective, and we killed 2 carriers and a Nag.

Incorrect, you broke the chimeras rep chain because we brought bhaals and all of our sleipnirs have 2x medium, neuts. That and we made up for close to half of your fleet that eventually came to help you in that fight

At the end of the fight, there was some “confusion” on the part of Sky Fighters as to who was blue to who. Once the goons were off the field, they immediately started to primary members of Ragnarok and other groups.

Also incorrect, we only primaried targets who were not set blue in the set up channel. No Ragnarok member was shot nor was any group who were set up in the channel. When we bring a 20/30B value fleet to a figh and there are upward of 60+ targets on the field I will not have my FCs second guess over a target becaus they "might" be blue.

TL:DR set your operational stuff up right and there are no issues.




Fixed some incorrect postings for you

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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-04-29 13:17:40 UTC
Sith1s Spectre wrote:
MooMooDachshundCow wrote:


We also broke their remote rep chain by bumping the carriers back into their own POS shields. This was effective, and we killed 2 carriers and a Nag.

Incorrect, you broke the chimeras rep chain because we brought bhaals and all of our sleipnirs have 2x medium, neuts. That and we made up for close to half of your fleet that eventually came to help you in that fight

At the end of the fight, there was some “confusion” on the part of Sky Fighters as to who was blue to who. Once the goons were off the field, they immediately started to primary members of Ragnarok and other groups.

Also incorrect, we only primaried targets who were not set blue in the set up channel. No Ragnarok member was shot nor was any group who were set up in the channel. When we bring a 20/30B value fleet to a figh and there are upward of 60+ targets on the field I will not have my FCs second guess over a target becaus they "might" be blue.

TL:DR set your operational stuff up right and there are no issues.




Fixed some incorrect postings for you

lies, we just wanted to shoot karen

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Keizer Kip
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-04-29 18:41:09 UTC
And now get your hand out of your pants and above the table ...........