Missions & Complexes

Drone anomolies and signatures in other areas of space are a waste of time and resources for the following quick reasons

1. They are of absolutely no value whatsoever. Noone gives a **** about collecting their bounties.
2. They're time consuming: hi guys I'm a drone combat site, sucks ass you had to spend time to find me but then find I'm the equivalent of a 2/10 and drop MAYBE some t2 salvage - meanwhile you're exposed to dying and needing to re-ship after finishing me.
3. They're inappropriately placed throughout the universe: I don't give a single **** if drones are a problem universally they don't have any reason to exist in god damn gurista NPC space or anywhere else where they aren't the dominant faction. **** off you drone bastards and your ****** site programming.
4. They're boring: fly in, kill some generic npcs who don't even drop loot, warp out. Delete these things from the game please.

There are numerous ways to improve drone sites but SOE chips aren't one and I still feel absolutely NO DESIRE WHATSOEVER to run a site just because it will drop a chip for a ship IDGAF about. EVER.

Here's a couple of ways to improve drone sites:

a) drop loot (crazy) like lasers and missiles and Shield modules and ****.
b) reduce their numbers and make them that quasi-pvp NPC faction everyone has always harped on about. Drones are **** - make them at least interesting if I'm forced to grind their sigs in order to dispose of them.
c) make their bounties higher than other factions, if they are already higher make them higher again. I benefit NOTHING from drone sites under the current model.
d) introduce a random overseers can to every sig - if i walk away with something worth less than 10 mil right now guaranfuckintee I'll revert back to just ignoring these POS sigs

CCP are slow and lazy when it comes to improving the material that conservatively 80%+ of the player base consumes to entertain itself. It's no 'adequate', and it is certainly "broken" in the case of drone sites. Either **** them all off or improve them. God damn amateurs programmed these, you employ pros now - do something.

Feel free to address the points of lower-than-normal payouts and saturation levels any time.

Rogue Drones have always been at the bottom of the NPC pile.

In the past they never had a Bounty. What made them bearable was the Alloys and Compounds they dropped which could be refined into minerals. However, thanks to the war on gun mining by Soundwave & Co., CCP decided more players needed to do mining (provide more gank targets) and removed Rogue Drone loot drops (promised Drone loot table). After a while due to Community outrage, CCP placed Bounty on Rogue Drones and with their promise of 'Soon', focused their attention on other things.

That was years ago.



Anyway, I agree Rogue Drones definitely need a loot table. Been promised for a long time. Should be easy enough to create one, just have it be a random selection of Tech 1 modules from all Factions. The Rogue Drone DED sites should drop random Faction/Deadspace modules.



DMC

I do drones anom sometimes and like the sentient drop loot, but it's OK if no one is interested

It is harder to find sentients in belts because there is no drone NPC space, which means there is no drone broken truesec.

Im not even sure whats in the loot tables for these things because at the moment it seems like crap and more crap and nothing else lol

I disagree, I doubt very much CCP made economic decisions regarding the drone regions at the behest of an alliance or coalition, they did it because it was killing mining everywhere.

As far as loot tables go, if I was in charge of the upcoming project to reduce power of drones so that there is room for faction drone mods, I'd have added those modules to a new sentient loot table and not to the extant Dread Gurista loot table. ie as a coalition rent slave, I'd have thought the game better served by that, even though the decision CCP has made suits me just fine personally.

I also seem to remember sentients having particularly large bounties. The "average" for a DG faction ship is not very big - ie I'd expect 8-10m on average in loot (comprised of nothing, nothing, nothing, 40m drop), and I seem to recall drones having a prebuilt bigger bounty - ie I am pretty sure I've shot a 20m bounty drone where I generally only see up to 12m on DGs.

You actually give two ***** about those nexus chips? Considering how bad the Nestor is seen by the average eve citizen the reward vs effort isn't there.

Also totally agree that drone related modules belong appropriately from drone regions.
Sentients don't have significantly higher bounties than other commander spawns.

Please tell me how the changes to drone regions made the game better - sure remove gun mining - but not implementing at least a basic loot table and proper bounties to compensate is just ******** and it broke an entire region + associated missions/signatures.

You consider 1.5 hr for a mere 70m to be reasonable? In lowsec?

When I can run missions in near complete safety out of highsec - and once faction ammo/modules made from reprocessed minerals is taken in to account - I can make pretty much the same money?

Lowsec possibly shouldn't have its primary income model generated from content that works in high/null sec, just saiyin

I consider 30m an hour to be the minimum someone who plays semi-seriously should be achieving. I been playing since 2009, that's long enough to see what's what. I've done WH (very briefly), null sov, null npc, merc stuff, lowsec FW, missions and now am an active participant for the khanid war. Raw income values have never been particularly important to me as our fits are spartan. They're built on a budget to the minimum effectiveness required.

I personally am not afraid of whelping something shiny for entertainment value - better than collecting dust in my hangar. ISK isn't a driving factor for me

BUT

Since I do need to make money to feed my habits and drone sites seem particularly prevalent here in aridia/khanid, I can confidently state they are nearly worthless compared to say BR 5/10's and 6/10s. FInally: reprocessing changes won't matter a damn to me, at all, because I don't sell the excess minerals, I just keep manufacturing until the minerals are expended and fwiw I have about 330mil in surplus minerals stockpiled in another sysem. Cut in half? 160mil in surplus? What about when mineral prices rise due to this font of easy cash being neutered? Will I still be laughing just as hard? Yep.