Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hey man, idk about you, but trolling is wrong and I don't partake in that.

The reason you see them is because they're the ones stuck approaching the gate with freighters. Majority of people just come and go.

I think many people already know that I mostly take a stance favouring carebear-y activities.

But this is one of the exceptions.

Combining "Warp to 0" and "Jump" is a nice addition which I gladly use, but people may have noticed that someone may even be a fraction of a second, or maybe up to a second, faster if they still do it by hand. Just because the automatics let the ship decelerate to zero before initiating stargate jump.

I'm fine with that. Less clicking hassle for me and still not as good as if I fly completely manual.

Now comes:

Laziness should not be rewarded. It should be penalized. If you don't watch out and take matters into your own hands, you're fair game. That goes for autopiloting, especially with an expensive ship or during wartimes as same as with maybe warping onto the default warp-in point of an ice belt and simply picking the nearest roid in sight instead of making yourself a less obvious spot. That list goes on and on.

Back to autopiloting:

You're travelling, pure and simple. You're occupied with the process of travelling. An airplane pilot cannot simply switch on autopilot and take a nap somewhere in the rear part of plane as well. As well as you can't simply switch on cruise control and make a coffee in the back of your mobile home, even if the long, straight, empty roads of Canada entice you to do it.

So.... No.

No.

Autopilot warping to 15km working as intended.

Consider the following:

In a high traffic system, you are piloting a freighter, and warp to 0 on the gate utilizing autopilot, and multiple ships come out of warp at approximately the same time, thus slowing down from FTL speeds, and strike your freighter, bumping it off the gate, and a crew of gankers just happen to be floating around (say the Sivala/Uedama bottleneck). Suddenly, multiple alphapests, alphapocs unleash their fury on your autopiloting freighter, all because you're too lazy to actually play the game.

In the end, they profit, as we all know even on AP, a jump isn't immediate as there would be the session change of coming out of warp, and the session change of jumping, which would put more strain on servers, thus creating more lag.

So again, no.

Correct.... tbh, there are less people using auto pilot now than ever before... Most of the ships that you see auto piloting are typically small frigs, shuttles, and pods, because they fly quick and hit warp quick.
Most players flying something of value or carrying something of value will not auto pilot.
This has led to most gankers actually catching ships on the receiving end of a gate where they can catch the target before they enter warp. It's a method that is always used in low sec gate camps.
Now, when they catch someone coming out of AP and gank them, well, that's just the topping on the cake.

If AP were able to warp to zero it wouldn't reduce the amount of high sec ganking at all because those who did rely on ganks of AP will simply start ganking on the receiving side of the gate before the target hits warp.



I feel the skill would be a good idea, that way it's not just given to people.

Agreed, everyone would forget about it....Just like everyone has forgotten that you used to not be able to warp to zero even if you were flying manually, and that if you did want to warp to zero you had to set up bookmarks.
Yet, CCP changing that didn't have people up in arms claiming that it was supporting lazy ppl.(if they were up in arms it's because it took away from their ganks, but since then you haven't heard a peep from those people.)

It's a quality of life issue. Giving players a choice to warp to zero increased the quality of life for everyone. It allowed them to spend less time setting up bookmarks and flying around, and more time actually playing the game.

Everyone in Eve will agree that travelling is the most tedious and annoying part of Eve.
Hell, I hate having to even go over one jump to run a mission.

Allowing AP to warp to zero changes nothing in the amount of ganks in high sec, but instead simply suggest to players to do ganks in a manner similar to low sec gate camps.
This will increase the quality of life for everyone in Eve because you'll spend less time doing the most tedious and boring aspect of eve, and more time actually playing the game the way you want.



for those who keep saying it supports laziness, I beg to differ.
I've auto piloted because I had other sh*t to do, but never because I was too lazy.
I actually don't use AP in slow ships because i'm too lazy and impatient to wait to reach my destination.

To me auto pilot is not playing the game. It's moving around to get somewhere so you can play the game.
Kinda like going on vacation.
has anyone here ever considered the drive or flight to your destination as part of your vacation?
If you have, then you either have a crappy job and everything is better than being at work, or you seriously have no idea what the term vacation means.
Most people will take a flight because it's much quick, so you'll get there and be able to enjoy your vacation.

AP is exactly like that. Just cause you're jumping around in game doesn't necessarily mean you're playing the game, but that you're trying to get to a spot so you can play the game, much like even though you're already on vacation, the car ride or plane ride to your location isn't really part of your location.
So if someone on the plane asks you where you're going, you say "I'm taking a vacation to/in Hawaii." Never do you say "I'm on vacation, so I'm going to Hawaii."

Sorry Sal, it's a bit long winded, lol.

As I have said before I support shuttles having warp to zero autopilots, moving from point a to point b in a shuttle can hardly be called playing the game

That would suck.

Not only would it hender everyone's attempt at putting ice in low and null only
But it would also force everyone to only fly ships of the faction territory they were in so that they could fuel their jump drives.

Also, jump drives would have to be completely revamped cause as it sits, from what I undestand, you need someone on the other side to open a cyno.
Which means cynos would have to be made legal in high sec. Which means a new cyno type would have to be implemented that only allows high sec allowed ships.

Just sounds like a headache to me really.

Oh God Yes!!! Jumping around is so annoying. Who cares if I'm actually "there" to make the jumps? In fact, we should be able to automate everything we want in EVE. I could set a schedule for the day...mine belts 1-5 using jetcans, if someone steals a can, switch to my Drake and come agress them if they are smaller than BC size. Then refine the stuff I mined, and haul it all to jita and sell it at buy prices or a bit higher, depending on what the sell prices are. Then autopilot-to-0 back to my base station, dock, and wait until i get home from work.

This would be so epic. The people who wanna gank and stuff can still do that, nobody is stopping them. But it wold become more of a game of the mind, rather than time.

No.

Not needed, and removes the benefit you get for doing it manually (beating your lazy-ass competitors).

Exactly. See? Tippia already uses ap macro, and thus, want the stupid ppl to stay gimped.