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[MERC] Merrill's Marauders now accepting contracts in low/high sec.

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Dave Stark
#81 - 2014-04-27 18:20:24 UTC
Kandik Orwell wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
the statistician in me wonders; is there a correlation between insulting everyone in your advertisement thread, and the amount of active wardecs that you have?


Free wars! :D


you're excited about saving 50m.

let that sink in.
Heavy Met4l Queen
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#82 - 2014-04-27 18:21:19 UTC
Kandik Orwell wrote:


We didn't start this, but we're gonna finish it.


Oh noes... He has the space honorz. Now theres no possible way he can lose ships in highsec.

In the game of conquest, who cares about the pawns if the king yet reigns?

Kandik Orwell
The Black Crow Bandits
Northern Coalition.
#83 - 2014-04-27 18:25:35 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Cannibal Kane wrote:


That hard when it was you that started the disrespect. I just pointed out that using BC's ranking system is not a good measurement of achievement.

You went completely mental as if I shattered a life long dream of finally becoming top ranked with a corp even when you yourself is at 74k.


Hmm, you seem to have a bit of a selective memory:

Cannibal Kane wrote:


Cute...

You are top ranked on Battle Clinic somewhere in the high 8000 range.

I am ranked 761 on my own and I don't even use Battle Clinic. Missing about 1000 kills.

Being top ranked on BC is not an accomplishment or a accurate assessment of how good somebody or a group of people are.


That seems like a pretty disrespectful way to "point out that the ranking system is not a good measurement".

And if ranks are so unimportant, why would you go on and talk all big about your own ranking? What does our advertisement have to do with your ranking? Totally unrelated.
*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.
Dave Stark
#84 - 2014-04-27 18:28:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Dave Stark
Kandik Orwell wrote:
And if ranks are so unimportant, why would you go on and talk all big about your own ranking? What does our advertisement have to do with your ranking? Totally unrelated.


he spoke about his own ranking because it's higher than yours, and meaningless. that combination illustrates that your lower and equally irrelevant ranking is... well, irrelevant.
also, the bit about missing kills also demonstrates an inaccuracy. using inaccurate measurements is bad.

are there any more basic concepts that you need to have explained to you?
Kandik Orwell
The Black Crow Bandits
Northern Coalition.
#85 - 2014-04-27 18:32:53 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Dave Stark wrote:
Kandik Orwell wrote:
And if ranks are so unimportant, why would you go on and talk all big about your own ranking? What does our advertisement have to do with your ranking? Totally unrelated.


he spoke about his own ranking because it's higher than yours, and meaningless. that combination illustrates that your lower and equally irrelevant ranking is... well, irrelevant.

are there any more basic concepts that you need to have explained to you?


My talking about my own ranking is not an invitation to conversation or trolling about the relevance of the ranking system. It is simply a statement of fact about what my ranking is. That statement does not imply that I have any opinion about the ranking system, other than the fact that I might see it as a promotional tool. *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
#86 - 2014-04-27 18:33:01 UTC
Kandik Orwell wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
the statistician in me wonders; is there a correlation between insulting everyone in your advertisement thread, and the amount of active wardecs that you have?


Free wars! :D




So I assume you will make all the wars mutual?...
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#87 - 2014-04-27 18:34:26 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Kandik Orwell wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:


That hard when it was you that started the disrespect. I just pointed out that using BC's ranking system is not a good measurement of achievement.

You went completely mental as if I shattered a life long dream of finally becoming top ranked with a corp even when you yourself is at 74k.


Hmm, you seem to have a bit of a selective memory:

Cannibal Kane wrote:


Cute...

You are top ranked on Battle Clinic somewhere in the high 8000 range.

I am ranked 761 on my own and I don't even use Battle Clinic. Missing about 1000 kills.

Being top ranked on BC is not an accomplishment or a accurate assessment of how good somebody or a group of people are.


That seems like a pretty disrespectful way to "point out that the ranking system is not a good measurement".

And if ranks are so unimportant, why would you go on and talk all big about your own ranking? What does our advertisement have to do with your ranking? Totally unrelated.
*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.




I used my own ranking to prove my point. If I really cared about it I would have made sure all my kills was posted there.

It is not.

"point out that the ranking system is not a good measurement"

How was that dis-respectfulness? I was pointing out a fact. For example, you guys went from 8000 to just above 7000 by whoring in on Concord mails.

See why I said BC ranking is a poor reflection of a persons or a corps ability? Now do you understand how easy it is to manipulate it to be skewed in your favour. A lot of the highly ranked (top 100) used to kill their own expensive toys just to be top ranked. Which is why just about everybody does not trust the BC ranking system. In hind sight I should have said that as well in my first post since I take for granted that people actually know what is going on in EVE.

However I am sure you will read the above and only thing you will comprehend is that I am insulting the fact you only killed concorded ships this weekend. Because that is how far your intellect stretches. I really don't care that you did but it proves my point nicely about BC rankings.

Your still saying mad while swearing at people. Remember that.

I honestly think you completely and utterly misread my post.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

Dave Stark
#88 - 2014-04-27 18:35:10 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Kandik Orwell wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Kandik Orwell wrote:
And if ranks are so unimportant, why would you go on and talk all big about your own ranking? What does our advertisement have to do with your ranking? Totally unrelated.


he spoke about his own ranking because it's higher than yours, and meaningless. that combination illustrates that your lower and equally irrelevant ranking is... well, irrelevant.

are there any more basic concepts that you need to have explained to you?


My talking about my own ranking is not an invitation to conversation or trolling about the relevance of the ranking system. It is simply a statement of fact about what my ranking is. That statement does not imply that I have any opinion about the ranking system, other than the fact that I might see it as a promotional tool. *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.


you posted on a public forum, it's an invitation to discuss it.

you simply stated the fact that your ranking is something horrible and irrelevant, kane simply stated the fact that battleclinic is inaccurate and a poor measurement of whatever it is you were trying to measure. [then, at that point, you got really really mad]

*Snip* Removed reply to an edited out part of the quoted post. ISD Ezwal.
Kandik Orwell
The Black Crow Bandits
Northern Coalition.
#89 - 2014-04-27 18:35:49 UTC
Loraine Gess wrote:


So I assume you will make all the wars mutual?...


Why would I put myself at a disadvantage in these wars? I wouldn't be much of a CEO if I didn't take advantage of the game mechanics offered to me.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#90 - 2014-04-27 18:36:27 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
Kandik Orwell wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Kandik Orwell wrote:
And if ranks are so unimportant, why would you go on and talk all big about your own ranking? What does our advertisement have to do with your ranking? Totally unrelated.


he spoke about his own ranking because it's higher than yours, and meaningless. that combination illustrates that your lower and equally irrelevant ranking is... well, irrelevant.

are there any more basic concepts that you need to have explained to you?


My talking about my own ranking is not an invitation to conversation or trolling about the relevance of the ranking system. It is simply a statement of fact about what my ranking is. That statement does not imply that I have any opinion about the ranking system, other than the fact that I might see it as a promotional tool. *Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.


Kane was just trying to help you.

As you can see, this forum is populated by people smarter, wiser, and more experienced than you. This is why pretty much everyone agrees with Kane, because Kane is the Bodhisattva of HiSec - the Perfectly Enlightened One.

Kane was trying to help you advertise your corp, because anyone with half a brain would see you claiming "top ranked on BC" and laugh at you. I mean honestly, did you really think you're little nobody corp was top ranked anywhere?

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist

Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
#91 - 2014-04-27 18:37:19 UTC
Kandik Orwell wrote:
Loraine Gess wrote:


So I assume you will make all the wars mutual?...


Why would I put myself at a disadvantage in these wars? I wouldn't be much of a CEO if I didn't take advantage of the game mechanics offered to me.




Soo you wanted free wars but now you got free wars you think that's a disadvantage?
Kandik Orwell
The Black Crow Bandits
Northern Coalition.
#92 - 2014-04-27 18:44:16 UTC
Loraine Gess wrote:


Soo you wanted free wars but now you got free wars you think that's a disadvantage?


Not at all what I said. Re-read that. Why would I put myself at a disadvantage? As it stands I can have allies join my wars, if I make the wars mutual, I cannot. Why would I not take advantage of those mechanics?
DasWobbles
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#93 - 2014-04-27 18:49:35 UTC
Even if you dont get a single client from this I want to personally thank you, the rest of your crew, and all others who participated in this thread for a thorough laugh. Thank You.
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
#94 - 2014-04-27 18:49:43 UTC
Kandik Orwell wrote:
Loraine Gess wrote:


Soo you wanted free wars but now you got free wars you think that's a disadvantage?


Not at all what I said. Re-read that. Why would I put myself at a disadvantage? As it stands I can have allies join my wars, if I make the wars mutual, I cannot. Why would I not take advantage of those mechanics?



So despite boasting you (yourself) could take on all comers, you now need and indeed have allies, who are too incompetent to press the dec button themselves?
Voyager Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#95 - 2014-04-27 19:16:07 UTC
I was actually kinda hoping that this was some ploy by a squad of real PvP'ers to bait a whole bunch of people into wars by turbo shitposting on some no-name altcorp and then bringing their mains in as allies (I don't do enough hisec stuff to know if there is any reason to do this instead of just wardeccing people directly).

Incidentally, who is Merrill?
Kandik Orwell
The Black Crow Bandits
Northern Coalition.
#96 - 2014-04-27 19:27:28 UTC
Voyager Arran wrote:


Incidentally, who is Merrill?


Good question actually:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrill's_Marauders

History is a bit of a hobby of mine, especially military history. So a few years back when I made this corp I named it after a group of American commandos who fought in SE Asia.
Cephalopodamus Teuthida
Interstellar Astrometric Survey and Extraction
#97 - 2014-04-27 19:46:34 UTC
All the hyperbole in this thread has raised my expectations. I'll be taking a look at the kill-boards periodically to see the fallout.

I hope it lives up to the hype. I cant take another damned "Iron Man II."
Jack Lennox
Grove Street Families
#98 - 2014-04-27 19:53:59 UTC
Voyager Arran wrote:
I was actually kinda hoping that this was some ploy by a squad of real PvP'ers to bait a whole bunch of people into wars by turbo shitposting on some no-name altcorp and then bringing their mains in as allies (I don't do enough hisec stuff to know if there is any reason to do this instead of just wardeccing people directly).

Incidentally, who is Merrill?


As someone who just wardecced them and would stand to potentially get dunked if this was true, I think that would be hilarious. I guess we'll see!

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Lord Razpataz
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
#99 - 2014-04-27 20:21:21 UTC
To OP;

I wish you the best of luck in the hole you digged for yourself.

Good Job! Even rswfire could'nt done it better.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#100 - 2014-04-27 20:47:08 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
The constant posting of the OP in quick succession is deemed an illegal way to keep this thread on top of C&P.
If I where to apply the forum rules strictly I would have to lock this thread down for the next 19 days as compensation for illegal bumping outside of the marketplace section of the forum.
As that would be a bit harsh, I will lock it down for 48 hours as a warning.

I have also removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay.

The Rules:
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Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.


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