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Sansha Kuvakei

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Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2014-04-23 15:37:52 UTC
Fun fact about international intrigue: there are spies from pretty much everywhere nestled deep in every major political entity in New Eden. Here in the Federation, there are Serpentis spies, Guristas spies, Cartel spies, Syndicate spies, Covenant spies, Nation spies, State spies, Empire spies, Kingdom spies, Mandate spies, and yes, there are also a hell of a lot of Republic spies. Heck, there are more than a few Federation spies in the mix too, and it was that way even before the SDII was formed. And guess what? It's the same everywhere.

The State has spies from every external ally and enemy it possesses, and it's lousy with members of one corporation secretly passing intelligence or proprietary information to another. The Republic has Amarrian agent provocateurs, Cartel rabble-rousers and all manner of other covert operatives who find it easy to hide among the poorer districts. The Empire, much though it makes of its internal unity of purpose and the competence of the Ministry of Internal Order is simply too large to effectively police for spies, especially when all that a person really has to do to blend in is give the outward impression of humility, religious piety and deference to the Imperial caste system.

CONCORD is a multinational entity with an extremely large amount of power and influence over pretty much everything that goes on in the cluster. Everyone wants to know what CONCORD is planning and doing, so everyone's going to have spies in it - and given that it is essentially the central co-ordinator of information and compensation for anti-Sansha efforts, it stands to reason the Nation would insert spies into it. It hasn't yet disrupted CONCORD's ability to provide intelligence to capsuleers on their efforts in any noticeable way.

What you really want to worry about is a large, highly-visible political organisation that doesn't have any Nation spies in it, because if they manage to maintain such an all-encompassing and omniscient level of internal security, there may be something even more sinister at work inside it than the Sansha.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Kei Sparrowhawk
True Ethics
#22 - 2014-04-23 16:11:13 UTC
Yesterday I helped a Nation spy get into the Amarr Empire, so I know that there is at least one Nation spy in the Empires.
ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#23 - 2014-04-23 20:27:33 UTC
N'maro Makari wrote:
Less than a day and already this thread has been swarmed by SHARE. Admirable response time, you monocled wonders, you.


We just like to SHARE our opinions, your welcome.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#24 - 2014-04-23 20:58:20 UTC
Routine scan of implants, look for anything suspicious.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#25 - 2014-04-23 22:20:47 UTC
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Just start executing any officers who seem suspicious. And then kill every officer they've spoken with in the last three months to make sure. For reasons.

Or, nukes from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.


Is it still possible for Nation to gain valuable information from disintegrated synapses? I thought ya'll were more about acquiring information than weakening your enemies...similar to the Jove philosophy.

-Eran
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#26 - 2014-04-24 01:37:51 UTC
Eran Mintor wrote:
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Just start executing any officers who seem suspicious. And then kill every officer they've spoken with in the last three months to make sure. For reasons.

Or, nukes from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.


Is it still possible for Nation to gain valuable information from disintegrated synapses? I thought ya'll were more about acquiring information than weakening your enemies...similar to the Jove philosophy.

-Eran


I don't know if it slipped by you but we may not be treating this thread with the seriousness and respect it clearly deserves.
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#27 - 2014-04-24 02:14:20 UTC
It didn't slip past me but I can't pass up an opportunity to poke jabs at people...unless I'm in a bad mood.

-Eran
Aracturus
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#28 - 2014-04-26 10:01:49 UTC
Eran Mintor wrote:
It didn't slip past me but I can't pass up an opportunity to poke jabs at people...unless I'm in a bad mood.

-Eran


Nothing gets by you.

This is now a WIDOT thread!
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#29 - 2014-04-26 10:10:17 UTC
Aracturus wrote:
Eran Mintor wrote:
It didn't slip past me but I can't pass up an opportunity to poke jabs at people...unless I'm in a bad mood.

-Eran


Nothing gets by you.


Are you calling me fat.

-Eran
Aracturus
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#30 - 2014-04-26 10:40:56 UTC
Eran Mintor wrote:
Aracturus wrote:
Eran Mintor wrote:
It didn't slip past me but I can't pass up an opportunity to poke jabs at people...unless I'm in a bad mood.

-Eran


Nothing gets by you.


Are you calling me fat.

-Eran


Are you calling me a liar?

This is now a WIDOT thread!
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#31 - 2014-04-26 12:00:01 UTC
A liar about what.

-Eran
Aracturus
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#32 - 2014-04-27 00:27:14 UTC
Eran Mintor wrote:
A liar about what.

-Eran


I don't know. You tell me, you're the one calling me a liar.

This is now a WIDOT thread!
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#33 - 2014-04-27 00:37:59 UTC
I never called you a liar. Get off the drugs and stop being so self-centered.

-Eran
Xane Valefleur
Doomheim
#34 - 2014-04-27 10:20:10 UTC
"Calling on capsuleers" to perform any sort of unified action would require you having some measurable reputation among your fellow capsuleers, which clearly you're lacking.

Furthermore, you know your cause is lost (if not simply entirely ridiculous) when the only people agreeing with your suggested course of action are the very ones you're trying to undermine.

Oh, and one more thing, if you were trying to oust Kuvakei's "agents" from within the ranks of the sovereign nations, posting a publicly visible, citation-bereft call to action really isn't the way to go about doing it.

Operational Security: Familiarize yourself with its definition.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2014-04-27 11:04:01 UTC
Xane Valefleur wrote:
"Calling on capsuleers" to perform any sort of unified action would require you having some measurable reputation among your fellow capsuleers, which clearly you're lacking.

Calling on capsuleers to perform any sort of unified action would require you having absolutely no measureable knowledge of capsuleers.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Xane Valefleur
Doomheim
#36 - 2014-04-27 18:00:52 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Xane Valefleur wrote:
"Calling on capsuleers" to perform any sort of unified action would require you having some measurable reputation among your fellow capsuleers, which clearly you're lacking.

Calling on capsuleers to perform any sort of unified action would require you having absolutely no measureable knowledge of capsuleers.


Touché.
Morgan Wulver
SAYR Reserve Guard
SAYR Galactic
#37 - 2014-04-28 01:01:50 UTC
What you all fail to realize is that CONCORD IS the nation! Also, they were responsible for Pike's Landing, the Bloodbath of B-R5RB, and fluoridating our water to keep us stupid.

Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#38 - 2014-04-28 02:26:16 UTC
Morgan Wulver wrote:
and fluoridating our water to keep us stupid.

Ah, now I know what happened with peoples like Lagann, Ixiris, Anabella, Saya and others of that ilk. Overdose of fluoridated water!
Luckily for me, I don't consume water from CONCORD sources.
If you wish, I could send you some fresh distilled water.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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