EVE General Discussion

You do realize you are playing EVE online and are choosing to live in what is supposed to be a dangerous, lawless place. I think it says so on the tin if I can find it.

Because I'd rather unsub and play EVE offline until my subs run out.
The reason I played high sec was the dream of creating a corp of friends, move to null, have a place of our own....

If I had known it would be so easy to crush that dream by simply logging on, pressing cloak and waling away for 23.5 hours, I wouldn't have gotten into EVE 5 years ago.

And there it is.

You do realize you are playing EVE online and are choosing to live in what is supposed to be a dangerous, lawless place. I think it says so on the tin if I can find it.

I"m ONLY against being able to do that without actually being at the keyboard and turning the cloak back on a handful of times an hour.

It is my play style. It is my personality.


And guess what. That play style and personality is a HUGE chunk of the EVE player base.

This is why most players are in high sec, and why such a tiny fraction of EVE players show up on the killer side of kill mails. If I recall, something like 5% of players.



You can say that there is no place for us carebears in EVE. I highly doubt CCP feels the same, and if we were all driven from the game, as some desire, then CCP would be bankrupt.

I hope the forum will excuse me if I ask an unrelated question about etiquette?

A "friend" of mine thought it might be fun to war-dec the above posters corp. "Abyss Cooperative 3." My "friend" did the briefest research and found that The Kane Inquisition beat him to the war-dec by a few days.

Is there a protocol for this? Is it proper to pile-on and try to join the fun, or would it be considered rude and inconsiderate toward the Kane Inquisition?

thanks for any help.

Concerning wormholes, let me present a scenario.

I go into your wormhole. I see no one, but you're there and you see me come in. I tool around, get about 20km away from the worm hole, and then poof, i just log out.

I don't log in until the next morning, just after down time. Before work. You're not there to see me log back in.

Now, I turn my cloak on, move around a bit, look at the worm hole entrance/exit. Then I turn my stream on which is being broadcast to a private link that only my corp mates, that you can't find because it's not public. I then go to work.

for 10 hours, my character is logged in, afk, cloaked, broadcasting everything that takes place at that wormhole entrance to my corp mates. While they get to do their own thing, my character is performing work for them, it's providing real, valuable intelligence.

They see a situation that you put yourself in. They know where you turned your cloak on, to watch the hole. Because of this AFK cloaker, they bump you, and kill you. Something that only happened because of the information being provided by an AFK cloaker. Something that would not be able to happen, an offering of an unstoppable advantage being obtained from someone who is AFK in space providing real time intelligence, all because CCP has no mechanism in place to disable the cloaking mechanism of a player who is cloaked while AFK.

Or they see another guy come in, then you uncloak, bubble the hole, and see 3 cruisers of your corpmates show up to help kill the guy when he tries to warp back out of the hole. Upon seeing those 3 cruisers show up to "camp" the hole, 10 corpmates of mine warp in and kill you, all because they knew what that afk cloaker was able to tell them.

Streaming game play exists. It might not have 10 years ago, but this is a very real situation that could be happening now, or very well begin to start happening in the future.

Because there's a potential for this mechanic to be abused in a way that offers ZERO counter play in some situations, completely risk free, a balance needs to be introduced to curb it's potential for abuse.

If he's not at the keyboard, how does he light a cyno?

I strongly suggest you switch your argument to mine, where it emphasis the potential of an AFK cloaker to be gathering intelligence/reconaissance by streaming his screen's image to his corp mates, much like what's happening on this stream here:
http://www.twitch.tv/fw_subsparx

they can't defeat that argument. And it will better help you in accomplishing your goal of having a mechanism introduced that prevents someone from using a cloaking device indefinitely while AFK.

Now, I turn my cloak on, move around a bit, look at the worm hole entrance/exit. Then I turn my stream on which is being broadcast to a private link that only my corp mates, that you can't find because it's not public. I then go to work.

for 10 hours, my character is logged in, afk, cloaked, broadcasting everything that takes place at that wormhole entrance to my corp mates. While they get to do their own thing, my character is performing work for them, it's providing real, valuable intelligence.