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Miss Negotiatrix
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-04-26 01:46:25 UTC
What area has the least amount of people?

Im looking at starting up a indy operation and maybe even want to find some lowsec moons for T2 production however everywhere Ive seen so far has no moons and lots of people.

Is there anywhere that I wouldn't run into that problem?
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#2 - 2014-04-26 01:56:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Mara Rinn
The in game map can be coloured based on number of pilots in space: World Map Control Panel -> Star Map -> Stars -> Statistics -> Average Pilots in Space in the Last 30 Minutes

In lowsec, you can use the number of ships destroyed in the last 24 hours as a low-quality proxy for population density.

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#3 - 2014-04-26 01:57:51 UTC
Miss Negotiatrix wrote:
What area has the least amount of people?

Im looking at starting up a indy operation and maybe even want to find some lowsec moons for T2 production however everywhere Ive seen so far has no moons and lots of people.

Is there anywhere that I wouldn't run into that problem?


Non-Faction Warfare space is fairly quiet. The southwest lowsec tends to be slow from what I've seen, but I don't do production. Just in terms of population. With the indy re-vamp camping up in the summer, things will change.

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Miss Negotiatrix
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-04-26 02:03:07 UTC
Thank you, Ill check out the map.... but how do you tell south west... the map rotates

Sorry if Im dumb I really dont know
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-04-26 02:12:24 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel
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#6 - 2014-04-26 02:39:35 UTC
Solitude lowsec is accurately named.

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Puffy Twolips
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-04-26 03:34:17 UTC
Miss Negotiatrix wrote:
Thank you, Ill check out the map.... but how do you tell south west... the map rotates

Sorry if Im dumb I really dont know



you can collapse the map into a 2d overhead version with the map controls.
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#8 - 2014-04-26 03:58:29 UTC
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map is also a useful tool
The region maps can be set to highlight systems based on various live data.

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#9 - 2014-04-26 08:03:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Miss Negotiatrix wrote:
Thank you, Ill check out the map.... but how do you tell south west... the map rotates

Sorry if Im dumb I really dont know

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The Silent Syndicate
#10 - 2014-04-26 14:12:32 UTC
Awhile ago I scoped out the Mormelot area for settlement (Moved on since then) and it had a nice number of moons and planets, also had close connections to highsec and a highsec island.

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Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-04-26 14:16:37 UTC
If you're looking at moons for moon mining, all moons of value would already have been taken. If you're just looking for a research/copy/invent tower, then anywhere that's a few jumps away from a trade hub should have free moons.
Ovv Topik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-04-26 14:34:09 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Solitude lowsec is accurately named.

As is 'Placid'. - The non FW end.

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LHA Tarawa
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Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-04-26 15:51:44 UTC
Miss Negotiatrix wrote:
What area has the least amount of people?

Im looking at starting up a indy operation and maybe even want to find some lowsec moons for T2 production however everywhere Ive seen so far has no moons and lots of people.

Is there anywhere that I wouldn't run into that problem?


Profitable T2 moons are taken. And if you happened to find a profitable one that is available, it would not be long before a hot drop of capital ships took it from you. Profitable moon goo is the stuff the titan pilots fight for control of, not the stuff of new players.

As for systems without a lot of people, that is also a difficult one.

You are going to want .6 or .5, becuase the belts are much bigger for mining. A station with lots of open manufacturing slots. Possibly a moon that doesn't already have a POS, so you can set one up for research and additional manufacturing.

AND, you are going to want it to be near a trade hub, so you don't have to haul your goods a long way to sell them.

AND not already occupied by people that mine out all the belts every day....


Good luck with that.
Miss Negotiatrix
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-04-26 16:31:57 UTC
lol thanks guys

so out of curiosity how is it a lot of the lowsec moons I have looked at had corps of like 5-6 ppl sometimes 10 but MANY had under 20

Yes there were a lot with many player but I did notice a lot without that... and without alliances too

I suppose the individual may have connections with t he bigger alliances, I hadn't thought of that.
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-04-26 17:10:43 UTC
Miss Negotiatrix wrote:
I suppose the individual may have connections with t he bigger alliances, I hadn't thought of that.


This if it's a valuable moon. For the moons where the mined product doesn't even cover the fuel it may be just a small corp using the moon mining to offset costs of a tower they're already using (reacting, staging, etc)
Miss Negotiatrix
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-04-26 17:12:53 UTC
From what I could see there are moons with platinum and cad and stuff like that in the hands of small corps

Or are those not very good?
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-04-26 17:16:08 UTC
Oh, and what security level?
Miss Negotiatrix
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#18 - 2014-04-26 17:17:27 UTC
.3 and .2 stuff like that
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-04-26 17:22:33 UTC
Cadmium: Mining quantity 100/hr. Jita sell price: 10200. So 24 500 000 a day. Large POS fuel requirements: 40 blocks/hour at aprox 15000 per block, 14 400 000. So mining cadmim - 10 million ISK a day if the POS is used for nothing else.

Platinum: Mining quantity 100/hr. Jita sell price: 4200. So 10 000 000 a day. Given the above fuel, a tower just used to mine platinum costs 4.4 million a day

Gets more complex to calculate when there are multiple minerals being mined or there are simple and/or complex reactions as well.
Miss Negotiatrix
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#20 - 2014-04-26 17:23:28 UTC
interesting... thank you