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Finding Enjoyment From the Marketplace
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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#21 - 2014-04-18 00:29:59 UTC
Eve Mogul wrote:
Abidal Trekt wrote:
You can say all you want but really it's all about the wallet blink.



This. At first.
For me it's now more about teaching others, as more and more and more and more isk gets boring.

Good thread!


Use your ISK to cause chaos. You can always make more if you need it later.

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Far Wanderer
ACGM Acquisitions
#22 - 2014-04-19 05:40:10 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Use your ISK to cause chaos. You can always make more if you need it later.
Or create contests.

Or create whole trade hubs where there were none before.

Big smile

I really am wasting my breath though, when you can avoid questions from Hexxx and RAW23 like that you must have some seriously devoted investors. --Elizabeth Norn
Scion Lex
LEX Investments
#23 - 2014-04-19 09:41:43 UTC
-Being able to tell my pilots not to sweat it when they lose a ship
-Knowing the my efforts are keeping friends in the game
-Being able to afford to fly Faction/tech2 all the time
-Knowing I take good care of my pilots and being appreciated for it.
-Being able to relax, pvp and have a good laugh on coms

-That's what I love about trading most.Pirate
Eve Mogul
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2014-04-19 22:53:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Eve Mogul
Scion Lex wrote:
-Being able to tell my pilots not to sweat it when they lose a ship
-Knowing the my efforts are keeping friends in the game
-Being able to afford to fly Faction/tech2 all the time
-Knowing I take good care of my pilots and being appreciated for it.
-Being able to relax, pvp and have a good laugh on coms

-That's what I love about trading most.Pirate



Scion Lex has actually hit the nail on the head exceptionally well, and it really does go beyond simply seeing the wallet blink (which is usually just a means to an end).

When you get trading right and have 10, 11 and 12 figures of liquid isk available, and/or sufficient profits each week or month that you can't reasonably spend it all, there's little that's more rewarding than to spend your time in Eve however you please - whether it be PvPing/PvEing in any pimped out ship of your choice, stooging around with friends, or sharing the wealth with your corpies.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#25 - 2014-04-19 22:59:27 UTC
Far Wanderer wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Use your ISK to cause chaos. You can always make more if you need it later.
Or create contests.

Or create whole trade hubs where there were none before.

Big smile



Why create stuff when you can burn stuff?

Set the world on fire, then sell the ashes as souvenirs.

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Far Wanderer
ACGM Acquisitions
#26 - 2014-04-20 06:27:21 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Why create stuff when you can burn stuff?

Set the world on fire, then sell the ashes as souvenirs.
the point of the game is to have fun.

If lighting the fires while the city sleeps (thank you MC 900 ft Jesus) is what does it for you, then flame on!

Me? I prefer to open doors for others to walk through.

I like placing sell orders on the cheap in out of the way places with low traffic and good resources, consisting of T1 items that budding traders will try to resell, and that new characters will need: frigates, modules, guns and ammo.

The new characters will sometimes stick around and explore or join local corps or even band together and start their own corp.

And sometimes they become fodder for the local pirates, which is OK too, because good pirates should be well fed.


I really am wasting my breath though, when you can avoid questions from Hexxx and RAW23 like that you must have some seriously devoted investors. --Elizabeth Norn
Michael Bloomberg
Association of Apocrypha Magnetohydrodynamics
#27 - 2014-04-23 00:03:30 UTC
The feeling of getting an over-priced sell order filled off under-priced bought goods.

When you log back in and all your sell orders are gone.

Dominating a region's buy orders. Then logging back in three days later and realizing you are still dominating.


Seeing pirates run around with goods bought from you.
Seeing same pirates buy the same thing from you ten minutes later.


Also, nothing like the thrill of finding a sweet profit margin.
Far Wanderer
ACGM Acquisitions
#28 - 2014-04-23 06:21:20 UTC
Syds Sinclair wrote:
Running out is liquid ISK because there are so many profitable markets to be in. I hate it when it's a struggle to use up all your ISK.
I suppose that for the EVE trader this is the very best problem to have. Cool

I really am wasting my breath though, when you can avoid questions from Hexxx and RAW23 like that you must have some seriously devoted investors. --Elizabeth Norn
Herzyr
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2014-04-24 14:41:40 UTC
Far Wanderer wrote:
Syds Sinclair wrote:
Running out is liquid ISK because there are so many profitable markets to be in. I hate it when it's a struggle to use up all your ISK.
I suppose that for the EVE trader this is the very best problem to have. Cool



I agree as well, there's never enough liquid ISK, especially for a trader, it's always a fight managing ISK since there's so many trade opportunities.

I don't understand people who say LEWL I am space rich.
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#30 - 2014-04-24 15:23:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Elizabeth Norn
Far Wanderer wrote:
Syds Sinclair wrote:
Running out is liquid ISK because there are so many profitable markets to be in. I hate it when it's a struggle to use up all your ISK.
I suppose that for the EVE trader this is the very best problem to have. Cool


That's interesting.

Herzyr wrote:

I agree as well, there's never enough liquid ISK, especially for a trader, it's always a fight managing ISK since there's so many trade opportunities.

I don't understand people who say LEWL I am space rich.


How much ISK are you trading with and how much time do you spend trading? There comes a point where you have so much ISK that using your go to trading methods to soak up all that ISK takes up more time than you'd like to spend. I don't think I've seen anyone say it quite like you did though.

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2014-04-24 19:05:01 UTC
Note: I sell exclusively in lowsec.


Fast-clicking thru all my sell orders and finding out I'm still top-list on all items, even though I last checked 12+ hours ago.

First time a new item starts moving at a satisfying pace.

Seeing an item sold-out nicely... but I've got enough stocks to put a new order right back up.

When I'm the only seller for some items in some stations.

Deciding to stop a price war, raising my price, then... coming back later in the day to find my competitor finally raised his prices too.

Snatching a nice bargain on my buy orders.


But over and above all, considering that I'm EU TZ...

Checking my accounts while sipping my morning coffee and looking at a BIG FAT UNEXPECTED PROFIT made while I was sleeping!

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Far Wanderer
ACGM Acquisitions
#32 - 2014-04-24 19:32:06 UTC
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
Far Wanderer wrote:
Syds Sinclair wrote:
Running out is liquid ISK because there are so many profitable markets to be in. I hate it when it's a struggle to use up all your ISK.
I suppose that for the EVE trader this is the very best problem to have. Cool


That's interesting.
Why's that?

Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Checking my accounts while sipping my morning coffee and looking at a BIG FAT UNEXPECTED PROFIT made while I was sleeping!
Nice. I like those too, when they happen.

I really am wasting my breath though, when you can avoid questions from Hexxx and RAW23 like that you must have some seriously devoted investors. --Elizabeth Norn
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#33 - 2014-04-25 06:49:38 UTC
Far Wanderer wrote:
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
Far Wanderer wrote:
Syds Sinclair wrote:
Running out is liquid ISK because there are so many profitable markets to be in. I hate it when it's a struggle to use up all your ISK.
I suppose that for the EVE trader this is the very best problem to have. Cool


That's interesting.
Why's that?



Because you're paying people to hold on to their ISK so you don't have an empty wallet.

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Far Wanderer
ACGM Acquisitions
#34 - 2014-04-25 07:20:17 UTC
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
Because you're paying people to hold on to their ISK so you don't have an empty wallet.

I suppose that's one way to look at it.

One of the recent pleasures I derived from the market was a message sent by a capsuleer who'd sold me some battleships, and realized I was the person undercutting him on his other orders with my "23s lol".

Do any of you set prices with a specific numbers included to further highlight your orders/make them stand out on the market window?

I really am wasting my breath though, when you can avoid questions from Hexxx and RAW23 like that you must have some seriously devoted investors. --Elizabeth Norn
Magnu Stormhawk
#35 - 2014-04-25 08:17:49 UTC
Far Wanderer wrote:


Do any of you set prices with a specific numbers included to further highlight your orders/make them stand out on the market window?


'Highlight my orders' setting works far better, and doesn't give anything away to the competition. Knowledge is power, why would you want to give that away?
Far Wanderer
ACGM Acquisitions
#36 - 2014-04-25 14:59:54 UTC
Magnu Stormhawk wrote:
Knowledge is power, why would you want to give that away?
Our practice of appending our orders with ".23" has its roots in being able to better identify orders, certainly, but the practice evolved into a way to broadcast our presence on the marketplace.

I suppose if it's fun to try and maintain a super sekret identity on the market then go you, but we've found it's more fun to make people aware.

You get interesting evemails that way. Cool

I really am wasting my breath though, when you can avoid questions from Hexxx and RAW23 like that you must have some seriously devoted investors. --Elizabeth Norn
Herzyr
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2014-04-25 16:01:54 UTC
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
Far Wanderer wrote:
Syds Sinclair wrote:
Running out is liquid ISK because there are so many profitable markets to be in. I hate it when it's a struggle to use up all your ISK.
I suppose that for the EVE trader this is the very best problem to have. Cool


That's interesting.

Herzyr wrote:

I agree as well, there's never enough liquid ISK, especially for a trader, it's always a fight managing ISK since there's so many trade opportunities.

I don't understand people who say LEWL I am space rich.


How much ISK are you trading with and how much time do you spend trading? There comes a point where you have so much ISK that using your go to trading methods to soak up all that ISK takes up more time than you'd like to spend. I don't think I've seen anyone say it quite like you did though.


I started trading not long ago but I'm in the low hundreds of million, I haven't reached the plateau that you mentioned since I spend far too little time trading because I just update market orders as I do stuff.

But that post regarding the ''LEWL space rich'' is more or less directed at my persona, I am a cheap ******* in real life and I SIMPLY cannot bear spending money unless it's a real MUST.
You could say I am one of those freaks that like nothing more than watching their wallet grow, not spending a single dime. At least until I get epilepsy from so much green and red numbers.
Far Wanderer
ACGM Acquisitions
#38 - 2014-05-12 04:40:18 UTC
Lately I have enjoyed watching (what I assume to be) new players as they purchase things.

For example: I list antimatter rounds in units of a 1,000 and place multiple sell orders of these in my home system (enough to fill up the market window) at the lowest price in the region.

Different capsuleers will purchase the rounds in varying amounts, but one person will always come along and buy out everything.

The thing is, each time he or she does it, they buy 1 from every sell order, then come back anywhere from a half hour to a couple hours later and buy out 999.

A few different pilots have done this, so I wonder: is it just the noob factor?

Regardless, it's fun to see the trail they leave behind in my wallet window.

I really am wasting my breath though, when you can avoid questions from Hexxx and RAW23 like that you must have some seriously devoted investors. --Elizabeth Norn
Eve Mogul
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2014-05-13 21:27:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Eve Mogul
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
How much ISK are you trading with and how much time do you spend trading? There comes a point where you have so much ISK that using your go to trading methods to soak up all that ISK takes up more time than you'd like to spend. I don't think I've seen anyone say it quite like you did though.


Agreed. There comes a time when you have so much isk there's nothing left in the game you can't afford, and watching your wallet balance continue upwards only chews up more time better spent on other things.

When I finally figured out how to make the market work in my favour big time I really got a kick out of seeing the wallet blink as it always meant profit, but it does get old after a while.

I guess that's how Bill Gates feels... lol

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#40 - 2014-05-14 01:34:19 UTC
Far Wanderer wrote:
Lately I have enjoyed watching (what I assume to be) new players as they purchase things.

For example: I list antimatter rounds in units of a 1,000 and place multiple sell orders of these in my home system (enough to fill up the market window) at the lowest price in the region.

Different capsuleers will purchase the rounds in varying amounts, but one person will always come along and buy out everything.

The thing is, each time he or she does it, they buy 1 from every sell order, then come back anywhere from a half hour to a couple hours later and buy out 999.

A few different pilots have done this, so I wonder: is it just the noob factor?

Regardless, it's fun to see the trail they leave behind in my wallet window.



That is a seller of antimatter buying one of each to see who their rival is, then buying all of them up to make their profitable sell orders visible again.

I have been that purchaser (not on antimatter but on other items; most notably Light Neutron Blaster II).

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